Fledging you would need enormous quantities of kelp to get enough iodine, considering the amount of bromides you have around and inside the body already. I myself would love to find a natural alternative to Lugols but it doesn’t exist, seemingly. There are many people here who have taken kelp regularly for a long time, and thanks to this they are probably less iodine deficient than others. Yet, they haven’t solved their problems completely. One of these is Grzbear, if I am not wrong. So, continuing with kelp is good, but stopping there may be not enough. You’ll love this forum. The disc ...
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for you plasticat: ”Rubbing SSKI into a keloid at least twice daily will ultimately flatten them down to a ”normal scar”, but it can take many months to a year for particularly bad ones. The treatment goes faster if SSKI is mixed ”50-50” with DMSO.” SSKI is potassium iodide, contained in lugols together with iodine, here is the complete article: http://www.tahoma-clinic.com/iodide.shtml   [End]
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If that is so, should we think of improving the intake of chloride more? using potassium chloride instead of sea salt very interesting   [End]
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”Also, the piano. I’m no Liberace by any stretch, but was fairly decent (good enough to enjoy myself anyway!) However, I’ve been staying away from it recently because I was getting too frustrated...couldn’t remember the left-handed notes! Well, decided to plop down one night, a few nights ago, and whereas I wasn’t perfect, my brain was remembering the notes better than it has in a long time, and my fingers were flyin’!” this was very beautiful for me to read, thank you! could even break my hesitation...   [End]
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Tuscany has the weather you probably dream of, the syberian husky wasn’t too convinced instead. I don’t like rain and weteither, here where I live is icy cold, and it snows everyday, but it is very dry weather (because all the water is frozen) and I love it. I remember one night we were around in Venice and there it’s damn wet especially in nightime, brr...it goes inside the bones... well I must admit that norwegians also have very very warm houses, they are very skilfull with insulation so they don’t need to heat that much, besides the ceilings are low, and they have very effective fi ...
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well fledging it isn’t at all the same thing, you knew all along it would all go away, plasticat has lived with her scars for years and has tried everything to heal them in a lifetime struggle. I don’t think you understand her situation, sorry. How can one distract oneself from a thing like this? come on... plasticat, continue to fight, continue to search. You’ll have your face back someday. I would go searching in the field of plastic surgery if I were you at this point. I really wish you good luck, honey   [End]
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if it comes to dulse, arami, nori, even kelp when still whole and cooked in the soups and grains I am with you, it is never enough. But I see you’re having tablets of kelp, well the 2 tbsp a day of kelp suggested in other forums would make countless of caps, yet I tell you that eaten directly by the spoon it is the most disgusting thing ever. That’s why I ask how much, it makes a world of difference if it is of kelp we are talking. (anyway, I probably will do like you and go with tabs, as by the spoon I just find excuses not to take it...better a little bit than nothing at all! I just wis ...
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Well really nothing, amato has a name that can be italian and said hi from the mediterranean. I wasn’t referring to you, very sorry for the hijack   [End]
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sei italiano?   [End]
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you’re as sweet as a ripe apricot, but indeed you were hammering a bit with the oil pulling, ah ah! BTW, how did you make to fill 50 pages on such a simple thing as oil pulling? fascinating... anyway, I am also a fan of OP! W OP!   [End]
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It is interesting. Some say that soybeans unless fermented are not too good, don’t remember why. Me, I never had problems with tofu, but I stopped taking it just in case. Does it taste good? Thank you for the link   [End]
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I have lived in the Amazonic forest in a shipibo village, no electricity, nothing. They eat the meat and fish they hunt, yucca, bananas, and not many recognizable vegetables, because they don’t care for cultivating anything a part from sacred and medical plants, they just pick things around (now they buy also things in the market of Yarinacocha, two hours away along the river, things change also there!). No milk because it would get spoiled in ten minutes (besides they don’t have animals). Fascinating. Maybe they were also quite healthy now that I think of it. Certainly also thanks to thei ...
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oh, mortars are awesome! you’ll like them for sure there are many many types, in different materials. The ones for italian pesto are typically in white marble. In Thailand I was a great fan of the papaya salad, also made with a mortar, but in wood (ever tried? it is just divine...one of my favorite foods in absolute, and very clever! the vegetables - green papaya and tomatoes - are slightly beaten in the mortar, together with lime, a bit of sugar, salt and plenty of chili, and I believe all the minerals get a bit umbinded this way. You could use the same idea for your tortillas!). Very be ...
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Plasticat there are many nevers that are denied every day. Continue your search, you’ll get somewhere i am sure! (just a question maybe too silly: what about laser therapy? don’t they say that they take away the scars? plastic sirurgy (how do you spell it? I’m italian)? some time ago I met a girlfriend of when I was 10, that I hadn’t seen since. She told me she had crashed her face in a car accident and that she had re-constructed everything piece by piece, it had taken her years to get back to her original face. Her face was just perfect! If they could do something so difficult for her, ...
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I didn’t know amino-acids were detoxing from heavy metals! I was hoping for a non-synthetized resource, but I’ll maybe have to use caps. Thank you very much!   [End]
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OMG! like Rocky? aren’t they...slimy? hmm...thank you, I’ll give it a thought but... damn, 6 every day? I mean, I knew already that raw eggs are better than cooked but I thought people were eating one at a time! maybe only the yolk? that would be easier...   [End]
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Alison, you can’t count on only sea salt for the iodine intake if you’re vegan, as you probably know already you’ve got to eat seaweeds too. I don’t, as I really hate kelp, but I will strengthen my will...yuk! ...and think that it is so good when it is a whole piece cooked in the miso soup or in the rice... Chorey, I don’t buy this Wenston Price. If he was right, then the father of my grandfather should have lived a healthy and long life. Pre-industrial age, no artificial crap... Right? Wrong! People were dying at the age of 50, and not only the poors. Besides, what is this story of pop ...
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how much improvement could he expect? and how long can he take it?   [End]
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Well said about the lack of proteins. Besides, it might be a coincidence, but among the people I know, vegans have the best skins. Meat-eaters age quickly and have less smooth skin. My boyfriend, as soon as he drinks a glass of milk, you can count to 10 and a pimple has already popped up. Plasticat I was thinking, maybe it won’t do anything critical but being totally natural it also can’t do any harm: why don’t you try to make some masks with kelp? it contains iodine, but in organic form, and it is loaded of minerals. You could add some honey to it so that it doesn’t dry too much, as I ...
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No, of course I am not talking of detox symptoms. Don’t take too seriously what i said, I myself am trying to find a way to have a bottle of Lugol shipped to Norway. I am just surprised that you’re all so dandy about an artificial substance on which there is not too much experimentation. I mean this is a handful of MDs and scientists who talk of this thing, people that otherwise you would despise becasue substantially unaware of the concept that the body is a whole and as such must be treated. Actually, I am greatful to you who are so eager to try on your skin something that is still so u ...
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How brave you all are! aren’t you worried of possible unexpected side-effects? well... in the chinese zodiac I’m a bunny, so no wonder...   [End]
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I don’t have any recipe to give, but a raccomandation: don’t use the blender for the basil, ever! I know it takes a century to make the pesto with a mortar, but there is absolutely no comparison. So take your time and work the basil with the nuts of choice (pine nuts is the original, but one can change that) while you read the posts of CZ, or watch a movie, or talk with a friend. Then add the fat, then whatever you want to add. I don’t remember where the garlic is placed because I never eat it, probably at the beginning. The aroma will develop fully only like this. (the same I read abou ...
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Hi dr.Hardy, I have another question for you A neighbour friend, 10 years old, is affected by a cerebral paresis since birth. The left part of his body is weaker, he walks ok, even if limping, but cannot run fast. Both the leg and the arm are affected. Doctors said that the cause of the cerebral paresis is that the mother had pre-eclampsia in the end of the pregnancy, they induced an earlier delivery but it wasn’t enough. His diet is the norwegian correspondent of SAD, and it is not about to change. He even asks for the leaf of salad to be removed from his BigMac! But never say never. I ...
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I want to improve my intake of aminoacids, from natural sources. I am vegan, can accept dairies but never ever meat. Can you suggest me anything? thank you   [End]
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Then you have good genes, strengthened by centuries of oatmeal and life in contact with nature. Once I was in Tuscany by a friend who owns a syberian husky, it began to snow and the dog got litterally crazy, he began to jump here and there and was so happy. Do you do the same? (Erik, when we were in Thailand, kept hanging on the wall a winter picture of the Alps) Maybe if you reconnect with your ancestor they will give you some good tips on how to love the cold...it’s a lot in the head, besides the iodine factor, which is of course leading   [End]
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I hear about it. How much is quickly?   [End]
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they used sweating lodges and kept feet warm. Here in Norway they still put babies to sleep outdoors during the day, well covered of course. They stay out there in the freezing cold for hours. And people don’t heat their bedrooms, they even sleep with windows slightly open in full winter. And their winter huts, where they go to ski, have still the toilet outside, they are very proud of this (funny people). And in the kindergarden of my son, children stay outdoors at -20 (which I don’t know how much it is in fahrenheit, but it is very cold) the whole day, they have a tipi where they ligh ...
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hi dr.Hardy, I would like to have your opinion on this I have struggled (successfully) all my life to keep my weight under control. When I was little my mother supplemented me with floride, and I have been swimming for years 2-3 hours a day in highly chlorinated water, being an agonistic swimmer. I’ve been vegan for almost 10 years now. I have cold hands and feet, little energy, slightly depressive inclinations and continuous cravings, symptoms that have considerably increased after my pregnancy 2 years ago. I don’t have puffy lips and eyes though. I never tried to measure my fever in th ...
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That’s a nice product, Lake would love them. Do you think I can find them in Europe? but soon we’ll go to Mexico, at that point I’ll be able to import them directly from US. Lately I’ve improved the oatmeal putting udo’s choice and coconut oil inside, instead of the olive oil. That’s the main meal he has every day. I was a bit worried about the omegas and not supporting enough his smart brain and I am proid of the solution. But what about the proteins? iron? calcium? he doesn’t like almonds... and is chocolate ok for children in your opinion?   [End]
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Really? did they find Cousins with a BigMac in the fridge like Wiley Brooks?   [End]
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thank you, this was it! you have an answer to all my questions, ff   [End]
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I will make a search, but here in Norway spring is with snow, and after everything happens quite fast. Still, full summer could be equal to a late spring weather in mild climate, so maybe we can count on something good. Also, I believe that the grass that has been for months under the snow must have quite some mojo. I’ve got to translate Price’s studies to nordic conditions. Until not long ago there was one only brand of milk in all norway, ”Tine”, now there are two, and the farmers have very strict rules, plus the mentality nei takk, I will never bother doing something different than usu ...
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no way! I am one of those oldfashioned that still think the energy of fire has some value (taoists, specifically) Besides, I saw some months ago a video of Cousins and well, with all respect he looked like a dried mummy. So what for? and last, as you noted yourself raws are totally fixated about food and also skilfull in the kitchen, while I am a very elementary cook, with my skills I would give in just in a week or two. ...and with this lack of iodine how can you renouce to a warm miso soup in the evening, I say?   [End]
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If you say he’s genius, as you’re pretty smart too, and also ff, I will read his site carefully. But I can’t by all means eat meat or fish. My son loves meat, so it could do for him. I also can’t find raw milk and butter here in Norway, Lake is lately wanting to drink milk all the time, maybe Price explains why...   [End]
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...amazing what these carnivores don’t know... seriously, what do you mean?   [End]
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bleah!...   [End]
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...it seems we need it more than anybody else! I am happy too that I don’t eat animals :)   [End]
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maybe you remember this, I must have read somewhere that some specific aminoacids were necessary to take while on iodine. It isn’t unlikely, given that iodine is someway related to neurotransmittors. And that is my worry because my intake of proteins is low. I am also concerned on the food that can best support the detoxification, of which i know nothing.   [End]
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nono, I’m not that picky, the fact is that I read of eating livers and alike and I wonder, am I missing something? am I the only vegan in a forum of carnivores? (roarrr...):) I suppose you are just choosing food with maximum intake of iodine and that’s it, but better to know if I need to supplement or eat specific foods that can cover a bit the gap. I mean, let’s face it, I don’t eat that many proteins!   [End]
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Now i got a bit scared with your talking of raw steaks and bones soups, livers and raw dairies. I wouldn’t (and don’t) mind some dairies, even if I don’t feel they do too good to me I like them, but meat and fish is a nono, I just can’t stand them and the idea of them. Would I be lacking of something important?   [End]
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thank you, this is very useful to know. I think I read somewhere that certain aminoacids were also necessary? don’t remember   [End]
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hi alison, happy to see you back! I agree with you. Artificial substances are always quite flat, while nature has many dimensions. I trust natural substances much more. But still one day I realized that I am not totally detached from the artificial world, as I like art, for example, music, lysergic acid... (oops!) I concluded that I can trust artificial sometimes, if it has a heart. Does iodine have a heart? sure it is very beautiful...and it has somewhat a power to evoke something forgotten...at least, it seems to me.   [End]
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ok , it is the other way round not from the ocean to the plants but from the plants to the ocean. But where do the plants take it from?   [End]
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at this point I would be curious to see the content of iodine and bromine in sea water, would you know where to find it?   [End]
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I was waiting for you, I knew you would have the numbers! ok then, I’ll go take my 2 tbsp...yeek! anyway, better to check, right? thank you ff   [End]
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hmmm... the violet flame of st.germaine! it requires some time management to keep up with hyperactive forums like the 2 iodines and still have a life...   [End]
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sea salt contains very little iodine, almost nothing   [End]
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yep! thrilling... today I was saying to Erik: you know, I just discovered that there is not much iodine in the ocean, it doesn’t come from there...it doesn’t come from the earth either... and Erik: but then...where does it come from? one could invent many beautiful scenarios around this misterious iodine... the iody grail!   [End]
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Da-Da!!!! It says: ”Many marine plants, particularly kelp, are a rich source of bromine and iodine” (that’s why my cat doesn’t care eating kelp?) great text, I will read it more carefully later. It would be nice to find also some numbers, just to be aware of the proportions. But if I remember right, as iodine is heavier than bromine, not too much quantity of bromine is required to neutralize the iodine, while a lot of iodine is required to neutralize bromine. Therefore: just a little amount of bromine in kelp could vanish the benefits of the presence of iodine! Am i correct? well, ...
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yeah, in my post I was in fact thinking of the passage you quoted, wombat. Maybe I didn’t express myself clearly. I don’t doubt of the usefulness of iodine and the poisonousness of bromine, absolutely. I was just wondering if the iodine coming from kelp, if kelp contains also bromine, can be really useful, as bromine would neutralize it. It seems to me that if they say that the ocean is loaded with bromine, then also seaweeds are likely to be so, kelp included. I think it would be worth it to verify if kelp contains bromine, don’t you agree? but i can’t find a site giving this values. ...
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The problem with googling random is that you can’t be sure of the credibility of your sources. I suggest you warmly to post in the iodine debate forum (as your conclusions compete to a *debate* forum), and verify the quality of information you found. It is a very good attitude, that I have too, not to take the suggestions from posters in the forum without verifying, so I think your googling was a smart thing to do. But don’t stop there, please, things are not always as they appear. The fact is that iodine being poisonous or detrimental to general health is a big fat lie that is being uncov ...
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I use dr.Schulze’s superfood and it is good, it tastes also ok. Superfood is a very wide term, which indicates not only dried plants like the formula of dr. Schulze, but in general every food that is very loaded of nutritients.   [End]
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So the ocean is more full of bromine than iodine, that is quite a new. I wonder then how much bromine kelp contains. It would be funny to find out that the iodine contained in kelp is not so useful after all... ...and then a second question would arise, why Japanese should be living longer if their seaweeds contain also a lot of bromine?   [End]
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And yet I just found out reading the writing of dr. Abraham linked some threads up that the ocean is not so full of iodine, on the contrary, it is more full of bromine! and it is more likely that the soil on earth was very full of iodine very long ago, and got depleted afterwards by floods of ocean water. I still don’t understand how come if the ocean is so poor of iodine the algaes are so rich of it... whatevr, I still love the ocean!   [End]
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I had the same thought. For some people it might be stronger than for others. Whenever I think of the ocean I feel a great longing. I am also drinking water with much more salt than the usual recommended dosage, it just tastes better for me. There has always been something about the taste of water that never convinced me, and when I first tasted water with a bit of salt inside I just thought, oh yes, that’s it! that’s how water is supposed to taste...(it was also a very pure water of course). (still my love for the ocean can’t make me love the taste of kelp...)   [End]
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Iodine is a tissue builder, and much more. I’ve just began to learn about iodine, so bear me if i might be imprecise. Thing is that iodine is a kind of directory of the body. The body sometimes has all is needed to heal, but it doesn’t detect the presence of these substances, hormones, neurotrasmittors and alike, why? for lack of iodine. I’ll give you an example. 90% of diabetics are insuline resistant, which means that they produce insuline but their body doesn’t see that, and it seems now that this happens because they lack of iodine. Once they begin to be supplemented, their insuline re ...
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I suggest you go to the Iodine support forum and read it carefully or paste your post there.   [End]
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I also have a 2 1/2 yo child and I understand that you are exhausted, I am exhausted too! it isn’t easy, it isn’t easy at all... what about taking her to the kindergarden, so that she can play with other children and you can have some time to re-center? then when she comes back, you can give her some time of un-divided attention. I wouldn’t survive long without kindergarden, and my son loves it too very much.   [End]
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Sure I don’t think it was my mother’s fault, she wanted just the best for me. And talking of this, what do you think I should do with my 2 yo child? He’s very smart and energetic, and doesn’t have any of the symptoms of HIS, but I want to think of some form of preventive supplementation. Before, I’ll test it together with Erik. Maybe I’ll paint the sole of his feet every now and then, or put a drop in the oatmeal (it would come out quite a nice color!)   [End]
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oh, that’s surprising! it seems it is not too good to be a vegan around here!... well I am perplex, cause I really see many many puffy faces around, more than in Italy and Denmark at least...could be the criteria used to determine iodine deficiency are to be revisioned. Now i’m getting curious, I’ll check also other european countries. thank you very much ff, very good post as usual   [End]
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that’s a great idea, ff! Do you know by chance in which proportions they are?   [End]
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thank you very much, I sent them a mail to see what they can do, in Norway the toll regulations are very severe, technically one couldn’t import anything, but i’ve already smuggled products from UK and it went ok. In some months we go to Mexico, and there it will be easier, and less expensive too! are you also doing Ludol?   [End]
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now I’m getting childishly overwhelmed by the glittering promise of iodine. Also because i haven’t found it yet, so I have time to daydream and consider. But, I wonder: vulcanel, where were you when I was 5? that’s when I began to struggle everyday to stay thin, starving myself day after day, looking at my friends eat spoons of nutella when I just had a low-fat cracker instead? since then, I’ve done everything I could to get over this, squeezing my brains to find out what was wrong about me... the simple and sad truth is that my pediatrician mother had the good idea of supplementing me ...
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”wine is easy” you must be kidding! one of the dreadful things for an italian is when you’re at a birthday party and there’s the guy that comes up with the home-made wine, geez... awful is an understatement... My grandfather used to make wine and sold it too, in bottles with labels and everything all-right. Tocai, precisely. It was very good. It took all his life to get to something decent, then my father began to study physics and came along with some cool chemicals that helped immensely. Very good wine is not unsulphured and organic, it is quite loaded with crap actually. The rest is ...
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danes say that germans know nothing of beer (neither Americans...):) ever tried Carlsberg Gold? divine well I’m Italian and I like wine better, white and chilled, possibly in a hot summer day, under a pergola   [End]
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anybody knows where I can buy Ludol’s here in europe (I am in Norway)? I tried to google and found nothing. Many thanks   [End]
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it also occurred to me, but they just sound alike. Had a look at an ethimological dictionary on-line, but I can’t guarantee, as on ethimologies there are often different views Idiot (BTW in french it is also idiot but with accent on the o and silent t) is from latin idiota, which is from greek idiòtes=private, and this from ìdios=particular,same. Meaning that the idiot is someone who doesn’t have any public or social life. But I remember from highschool there was something like that the greeks were calling idiots those who talked greek (=same language), which is something left in ter ...
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Hi dr. Hardy when you have time for this could you post your point of view on diet, lifestyle and eventual supplementation for children? I have a 2 yo son who’s feeling very good, but I could use some suggestions. I have you know these motherly doubts sometimes, should he eat more proteins? should he have more iron? omega 3? iodine? vit D (we live far north)? you know how it is. My son eats very little, basically plenty of oatmeal, and some fruit (apples blueberries bananas and pineapple at present), meat once a week (I am vegetarian, but he really loves meat, so...) and fewer veggies (to ...
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Hi all! I just listened to this interview today and it opened my mind to a totally new perspective on the reasons why I’ve struggled all my life to keep my weight right. You need some patience because it arrives to talk of overweight only after a while, but believe me it is worth it. I thought there was nothing about weight loss I didn’t know already, well which girls don’t know practically everything on this subject? there are some, but very few... instead this is something I didn’t know, and maybe that was it! a life-changing discovery... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=827952#i
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It can be you’re not a food addict, but just lacking of iodine, as many many people around. I listened to this interview today and was amazed. It takes a while to give you the measure of what it is talking of, but take the time to listen to it. There are also an iodine support and an iodine debate forum in CZ if you want to know more. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=827952#i keep up with the warrior diet, it is great!   [End]
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Thank you so much Wombat! Wow, THAT IS quite a discovery. I can’t leave you alone a few months and look at what surprises you were preparing... Erik and I have been listening right now at the interview to dr. Flecha and, indeed, now I’m going to hunt for Ludol and Iodoral all over Norway! I felt quite bad when thinking of my 2yo son who mustn’t have got much iodine from me (and I didn’t even take him to the seaside on vacation!!!)(but he’s super-smart) luckily he’s lived the first 18 months of his life in Copenhagen, which is on the sea, hope that some iodine found its way through to our ...
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I never thought about it in these terms, you are right! many of us Italians think that winter is a kind of time out ugly enough to justify school   [End]
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Hi wombat! this has been the most pleasant winter of my life, talking about external conditions I mean. Once you’ve tried the nordic winter, with meters of snow reflecting the most impossible colors of the sky, you really can’t get back to any other of those grey dark winters of the other places!(a part from the tropical winters, which are not properly winters , so...) the very best is going out in the middle of the night with full moon and dive in these really magic reflections... hmmm, un-earthly... this is a picture I took one evening, you like it? glad to hear from you, hope ... [Image Embedded Here]
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Nesta I’m really sorry for your husband, as I know how the neural pain can be very hard to handle. Please try for him some of the remedies I listed in my post, especially the ones of Wrenn. If your husband is willing, I am more than sure that some changes of lifestyle will strengthen his body enough to finally fight the virus. It could also not take too long. Take care.   [End]
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Look at these very good suggestions of Wrenn: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=355917#i http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=355917#i I had herpes zoster too, something like 2 months ago, as it was an ofthalmic form I had to take the anti-viral tablets because it is a very dangerous and painful type of h.z. I think I got it because I lacked of sleep. Besides the drug I did everything I could think of, and in a week luckily it was all gone. In Scandinavia they sell Zverthylle extract, that has strong anti-viral properties but is totally natural, I don’t know if you have somethin ...
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Hello everybody! been a while since my last post. Hope you’re all fine. I wondered if anybody knows any informative site on ecological how do you call it, housing? we are changing the floor and don’t know how the wood should be treated, it goes without saying that at the shop they suggest the most weird products. We would like to darken the wood (are pigments and water ok?) and wax/oil it. We have a 2 yo child so it should be not a too delicate floor. As I live in Norway and we are not likely to have the same brands that you have in US, it would be nice to have tips on the materials mo ...
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Think so? I’m not the virgin prophet one...   [End]
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no I didn’t try as I’ve been taking a pause from cleansings for while (still continued happily my UT though). Here you can find the recipe: http://naturinologie.info/english.html#Online_Video   [End]
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meanwhile, you can have a look at this: http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=25&i=7   [End]
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Hi Archus it must be quite painful to feel contrapposition coming from people so close to you. Family dinamics, what a ballet of projections! I’ve lived them from the other side, as a daughter who didn’t go too well with mom. To approach the issue from a completely fresh point of view, I would like to suggest you to read ”Ask and It Is Given”, by Abraham-Hicks. It is not just a book on the law of attraction or positive thinking, I think it is a completely revolutionary book, in its simplicity, that could give you unvaluable help. It could also give precious inspiration to your son, I w ...
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fledg if you havent read it yet, I can’t suggest you warmly enough to read ”Ask and It is Given” by Abraham-Hicks. One can say it is EXACTLY about what you just said, but so much developed that even if you’ve been in positive thinking for years you will be in awe. It is one of the best books I’ve read in years. Simple, impeccable, it is a book from the future. I really can imagine the future unfolding according to the simple and solid suggestions of Abraham, I can see a totally new era coming along, which I would call the time of magic. It isn’t like the other books. It is something total ...
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seems quite a great dude... you must be quite a match! it’s sweet to read what you say of him, you really like him don’t you?   [End]
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...is he thinking you’re crazy like the other one? did you fool him too?   [End]
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If it is ok for you, there is nothing better, on the topic front, than urine. Massage the scalp with it, then keep it as long as comfortable and rinse. My husband keeps it on without rinsing and when dry it doesn’t smell anything.   [End]
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try to supplement your diet with calcium (organic, please!), they seem to be correlated. For good sources of calcium see this beautiful post of 36: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=387998   [End]
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Fledg, you’re too sympathic!   [End]
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Self-control and discipline kind of surprised me, as I don’t go too well together with these words, but I guess that yes, you can put it like this. Your attitude to drift is very precious, it means you have empathy and a dream-like approach to reality, and this is a gift to have. So I would say that you have just to find the way to use your talents in the direction you wish, but also this you can do softly and without effort, giving to your feelings all attention they need, because they are your best allies.   [End]
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I did analitical hypnosis, not the course, I went to a psychotherapist who used hypnosis, for soem months. It was beautiful. I believe that if you find the right therapist it can take you far. It dind’t happen to me though. Bit pricy.   [End]
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Sorry, when i posted i didn’t have much time to explain myself. EFT might be effective to treat temporarirly some short-cuts but, as it doesn’t involve any expansion of awareness, not even at an energetical level, somewhere the same short-cuts are bound to present themselves again. This is just my opinion, some people swear on it, so. Besides I find it quite dull to have to repeat again and again the same procedure, with an automatism and an ”adherence to procedure”, shall I call it, that I don’t trust much. I’ve tried it briefly and dropped it before seeing anything happen, but I read ...
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I would also say, check your thoughts and beliefs and see if something is going against. Ever heard of Abraham-Hicks? Lapis has a whole blog on the subject of the law of attraction, but I would specifically suggest you Abraham-Hicks. Here are a few links, from Lapis’ blog: http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=25&i=7 http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=25&i=105 There are books that you can purchase (Ask and it is given for example) but see first if you like the approach. If you’ve been going in circles, that’s a tool you want to have. Besides this, on CZ you’ll find many different ways ...
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here is a better explanation: http://www.americanbluegreen.com/html/sole_therapy.html I’m sorry, I realize I wansn’t too clear... the dosages they give per day are highly under-estimated. As I told you, I am quite comfortable with 6-8 tsps a day. When your urine gets too dark and concentrated, even while drinking plenty of water (but not the urine of the morning) and having proper diet, only then it is the sign you have to lower the salt index. To me, even with 8 tsps of sole a day, this has never happened. I suggest you to increase the amount gradually, until you feel you’ve reache ...
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It is only a problem of words. I doubt you can call fast a regime that includes proteins, but who cares? if this is what your intuition tells you (and not a mental worry of being left without energy) then that’s your place now. Only you know the quality of that voice.   [End]
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No also the sodium is very important, for three reasons: - it is becasue of the sodium that your body keeps the water inside and hydrates - salt index carries electro-magnetic energy, without it no trasformations in the body happen: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=117216#i - salt keeps away parasites: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=118936#i and http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=118938#i you anyway want to use salt with high content of minerals to help you alkalize probably there are also other things. The water must be inside the cells, not just pass by as it is when y ...
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that’s a good result indeed! I’m curious to know what practically you do to perform your attraction. I just began doing something in this sense, and I could use some suggestion. So far, I wrote a text describing quite precisely the thing that I want to attract (i tried to be neither too generic nor too specific, I mean the goal is quite big but not all-including) and I read it once or twice a day. After reading, I try to see it and feel it. Then I’m doing several affirmations, I write them 10 times a day, and after writing each of them I try to feel them briefly. In the affirmations ...
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yeah, wow! That’s really plenty of water. But... What is critical is the salt, besides the water. I used to drink massive amounts of water too and flushed it all down the toilet. Since a month I’ve introduced sole of Himalayan Salt (but also sea salt can do), an average of 8 tsp a day in the water and in the alkalizing drink, and all the pains I had have disappeared, well I can’t list all the good things that have happened to me just because I got rehydrated. Of course you don’t do that *only* but it is a fantastic basis. I’d known of the water cure for long time, as probably you have too ...
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i’m also Pitta-Vata but if i have ACV or lemons with plenty of honey or BSM i don’t perceive them any more as sour. What happens with vinegar doesn’t happen with ACV, anyway, so it is something specific of vinegar. I read somewhere vinegar could be worsening candida conditions (because of the presence of the mother inside), but in my case I don’t think I have any candida, or not too strong.   [End]
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1,5 l first thing in the morning, as fast as you comfortably can. Put also some salt in the water. Are you putting salt in your water at all? if you don’t, try it, if you hydrate a bit maybe your colon will stop being so stubborn.   [End]
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yes, me too I have strage phenomenons when I take a lot of ACV (I do it before LF because I’m bored of apple juice) but I take it as a die-off. Hope it’s right... I have almost liquid bowel movements, and orange-colored.   [End]
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Hey, NCM, you’ve received already very good suggestions. When you don’t have time or possibility for all these, go for the simplest in the world: drink 1,5 l of water first thing in the morning, as fast as it is comfortable. Never fails! I also gave up coffee something like 6-7 years ago, when I also quit smoking. You really won’t miss it... the alkalizing drink will give you the same boost (I use the recipe of Lapis, with half doses because it’s a bomb), if I’m out I have a glass of pressed orange instead. Also ginger tea is quite great, brings fire and focusness. I prepare a whole the ...
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Also, another ayurvedic technique to raise metabolism, exactly going on the opposite side, is that of sipping some hot water (maybe with ginger) every hour throughout the day. You want to help the digestion of the food you eat, not block it. Besides, frozen fruit salad? nei takk!   [End]
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ok, sorry if it seemed inappropriate.   [End]
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No gray hair at 70 yo? wow, hanna, you’re great! I would like to see you... (but you can see me, meanwhile, I posted my photos on the lonely forum - I’m not lonely, it was just a chain of posts that made me post those pictures)   [End]
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then now it is time to try with the homeopathic drops. If I were you I also would try to do some affirmations work because at this point you must be quite exhausted.   [End]
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I dip the qtip in it, but I never had infections, I do it just for no real reason   [End]
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I read some pages in the ”surprise me” of Amazon, it seems a good book. How would this tape be like? and how long? I don’t know if I would feel a bit ridiculous, listening to such a tape, a good reason to try and see how my sense of humour is doing. In general, the un-structured way of fledging would suit me, but one of the two: either the resistences on an issue are weak, then I can deal with it as I’ve always done, just deciding I can change my mind after all; or they are strong, and in that case I’ve got to be careful to not be fooled by my mind and its tricks, and the un-system o ...
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”have a test for people who beleive in a god seperate from themselves. It’s called the ”Heal me by next Wednesday” test. When this doesn’t happen, the excuses are many, depending on individual insecurites ;-)” I have a cousin, who’s catholic, her husband too, if not more, the parents of the husband more than more. 5 years ago one of their 2 sons, 8 yo, was found with a lymphoma non-hogkin, pretty tough thing to find. They did the usual medical torturing treatments, including transplantation of the marrow, and poor Lorenzo became even blind at a certain point after an ictus, and finally ...
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who attacked you so heavily? just curious. It must have been very annoying.   [End]
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ok, here we go: - make dreads only if you have a lot of hair, if not they look too poor to be really beautiful - take a vacation to Thailand and have them knotted in Bangkok, in Kao San road, it is reasonably cheap and very well done (with thin crochet). I don’t suggest to make the extentions though that they love so much. Keep your original hair and that’s it, if they are short they will be awesome anyway, maybe a little more prone too get loose but also easier to take care of. - preview some disconfort and boredom, it takes time and it is a lot of pulling - make yourself a mixture of ...
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what I really don’t understand is how come you (intended you individually and collectivelly) are so fixated about the bible, it is not such an interesting book   [End]
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fledg, do you say or write your affirmations? seems you say them. Any special reason? thank you for your suggestions, you’re so kind   [End]
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,,, and had to go back to the affirmations phase 1. I dont know why, everything works splendid the first three days, after which there’s a crisis. It happens again and again, and it happened also in this case. I could use some more ideas if anyone has any, on how to know without misleading excessive optimism when the process of integration of the affirmations is complete.   [End]
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btw , serendipitously, 4 = The emperor.The teaching: everything the emperor builds *will* collapse. The aspiration: ”I have found you, oh builder, you shall build no more!” Ah ah! that is so very precise! just curiosity: are you going to follow the path of innocence as I am? like freedom from the known (live as if it was your last day)...or will you apply the know(n)ledge of CZ from afar? the line you quoted would suggest the path of innocence.   [End]
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Tituanana to you, then, beautiful Alison. It is nice to think it is a goodbye but not a goodbye. good luck to you, sister sofia   [End]
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Hi, Alison, I am sorry if this might seem insistent. But there are powerful acts with really great symbolical charge: this idea of erasing your memories on CZ is equal to declaring a denial of the experience. If you are sincere and really think your time in CZ has been positive you should NOT erase it. Life talks by symbols and a girl like you knows it well, so consider it please with great attention. Putting it in someone else’s name is equal to erasure for what regards you. The loss of memories is one of the most diminishimg events in someone’s life. You can say, oh I keep the memory in ...
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yeah, MadArt, what tempts me in fact is the curiosity to see my works now, that my son has changed me so much. What would they be like?   [End]
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I just saw your request to the webmaster. Can’t you just limit your time on CZ and resist getting absorbed too much by it? this is also my concern. Middle path, as you know... I do hope you won’t disappear. About the words and the children around, we do leave them. They are not ours, never been. Just let them be.   [End]
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yes, it is so great! I suggested it here once but had no replies, thought I was the only one caring. It is such a powerful tool, especially in a site like CZ, so loaded with precious information!   [End]
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hmmm...that pear cream must be yummy... my son loves avocado slices with a tiny bit of miso over. I think the miso is a bit too dominant.   [End]
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What is so unnatural about cooking? isn’t fire natural? is it because animals don’t cook? they don’t talk and write either, but not for this we think we should stop doing so. I agree we can do it less. I believe men are unnatural by definition, and it is not eating raw that will make them have their Eden back (I also believe we can have our Eden back here now, but I haven’t found the solution of the enigma yet)(but sure it isn’t such a garrulous thing as eating raw)   [End]
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Oh, Alison, what you describe so well is in fact also the beautiful relation between my son and I (and Erik also). I am happy to hear that even after 23 years these foundations of friendship and recognition feel so good. When saying that things are a bit more complex I was referring to the climate of contrapposition to some distortions of contemporary society. I feel children thrive on a sense of belonging, they need to feel secure in their world and have no boundaries within it. If I begin to say no Lake, others might do that but you don’t because so I decided, this would create a woun ...
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thank you fledging, I remember your story, very brilliant. If you can elaborate a technique that allows to inbed all kinds of affirmations so fast, I will be happy to follow it. One of my problems with affirmations is that I find it a bit boring technique. But then when you get things move it gets more exciting i suppose. Victory is always attractive. Luckily, I had already to change the first affirmations after 3 days, which came as a surprise. I think this is because the sentences were very specific, I had spent quite some time elaborating them in order to ”break the code”, so to say. ...
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well well, about children allow me to say that it is a bit more complicated than how you put it.   [End]
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Have a look at this: http://www.lymephotos.com/ it seems that salt and ascorbic acid in high disages is doing wonders with Lyme. I don’t have any experience of it, but I believe in the great power of salt. Do you do anything else a part from UT? like diet, cleanses etc...   [End]
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I’ve been vegan for 10 years now. It was the first change I took when I went to live by myself. My desire is to become breatharian, in my own time, which is likely to be quite fast. About raw, god, I’m such a snob! I think I just desire to be against it because it is so popular. But honestly Cousens is not the first long time raw that I don’t see in such a good shape. I don’t have any real opinion about it, I just find it antipathic. I find the label antipathic, not the people of course. I tried a few days, they were ok, but nothing transcendental.   [End]
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sorry, got to go to bed, it is very late here. Still hope you’ll try tomorrow and tell me.   [End]
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I guess there are so many possible last days of your life that you don’t need to repeat always the same. Like, yesterday I was around in Oslo and interpreted it one way, today i was at home and i had it another way, tomorrow my son will be home and maybe i’ll feel like staying a lot with him. Instead of calling all your friends, you can pass with each of them some ”last day” and feel as close as you’ve ever been to them, doing things you really feel like doing with them. There will be for sure also some last day that you want to pass alone, because after all, that’s where you always end up ...
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why? you see, you’re scared of yourself, but as you said yourself as first thing, if it was the last day of your life you would pass it doing other things than eating   [End]
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the thing is if you fill yourself of all that yummy stuff you’ll feel quite full and groggy after, right? would you waste that last day of your life feeling that way? wouldn’t you like to feel more present, more aware? it depends... but I preview that after some episodic orges of food anyone would drop it I’ve had two last days of my life until now and they have been so brilliant. Today I had a whole morning in bed with sex and cat naps embraced until 2 (baby in kindergarden), and it had been so long since I felt so much in love.... I tell you, it is genial, try tomorrow.   [End]
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W grandpa! probably also the good spirit helped him stay young   [End]
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I had no problems in the house of before, where I had the toilet shower, asiatic way (awesome). I moved 5 months ago, and hate these breaks during the cycle, what a stupid reson to get messed up that way. I use to drink urine thorughout the day, which is lot, so to interrupt it makes a big difference.   [End]
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how come you’ve stopped, with such brilliant results?   [End]
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yes, very smart as usual. I want to add this. what would you eat if it was the last day of your life? I was thinking yesterday, would Lapis eat raw the last day of his life? you bet it. Also CF, for how he was talking now. What about others? some would eat like children, ketchup over icecream which has also its grace. I think we all should act as if it was the last day of our life, as the toxicity of a divided mind is worse than anything. But we are all so very scared of ourselves.   [End]
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