I didn’t read all the above answers to your question, but I wanted to chime in because I just lost a good friend to metastasized breast cancer a few months ago who was pretty hard core on her alternative methods. She was 55, and lived 8 years past her first diagnosis. She had a lumpectomy and took a short course of Tamoxifen in the beginning at the start of her learning about natural methods, but everything else alternative. She went to the Mexico clinic a couple of times, she followed a number of the natural protocols, took many different supplements and natural anti-cancer remedies, d ...
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Aw, you’re so sweet, thank you! I’ll tell you, I’ve had some things happen lately non-health related that have been bringing back some old insecurities along the lines of the last kid picked for gym team or the one nobody wants to play with, and it’s nice to get a woot woot! ;) We’re kind of drowning in bills and recently I’ve been more than a little worried about job security and our future, and as I was spinning around on that, I really started to notice how that fear felt in my body - not good, and working on that mind-body connection is part of my healing. I mean I gave lip service ...
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I think I would have, too. And at first he thought he needed to have the surgery, but the chiropractor he works with actually half-talked him out of it, and he made the final decision. I thought she was overstepping, but she’s very strongly opinionated about some things, and he was in that fear mode where he was about to go through with it, so in retrospect I’m glad she gave him that push because I wouldn’t have. Canceled it the night before, and the surgery center didn’t even find out about it till the next morning when he didn’t show up, somehow they didn’t get the message. He told m ...
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Thanks, he’s doing great!! I don’t think the average person could have pulled off what he did, but he knew enough about anatomy and alternative medicine that he’s almost as good as new. He had the job flexibility to chill out for 2 months without seeing any clients, and really focus many hours every day working on his wrist and hand. He’s carrying 2 1/2 gallon water bottles with that hand- in fact he just came in here to show me he can lift those again, and he says he still has a little bit of clicking in his wrist - I’m sure it wasn’t a totally perfect recovery, but he says he knows ho ...
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thanks, yes- I’m doing kelp every day and I eat seaweed in rice a couple times a week (wakame, laver, kombu - I even eat the kombu tho most people use it just as a tenderizer or seasoning, I’m one of those weirdo westerners who likes seaweed. :) )   [End]
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I think a few people wanted an update at some point since I’m breaking off in another direction, so here it is - sorry it’s long. Alright! I think I am finally, finally on the right track and getting to the bottom of some of my issues. I am finding my best results with energetic type products, homeopathics, small quantities of extracts and some NAET type work, along with some finely-tuned diagnostics with a great technician at Brownstein’s office, where I finally got to see the big picture of my health - they call it electrodermal screening, but I’ve had that before, and this technolo ...
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Read the whole thing. Ping! lightbulb.... I’ve done A in the past, but nowhere near that amount and stopped it maybe 6 months ago. I was taking cod liver oil but but stopped that, too. I still eat eggs, butter, and a little chicken and fish, but that’s about it. The iodine supp. (Lugol’s) just didn’t seem to be helping my symptoms, felt kind of ”harsh,” and I was consistently testing ”no” for it with a kinesiologist/nurse/energy work practitioner I trust in all forms except kelp and Water Oz iodine which is more of an energetic product. I gotta have her test me on A, this makes a lo ...
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just now saw your message, haven’t been on curezone in awhile. Hope all is well. my husband’s arm seems to be healed - without surgery, he went back to work today, but he’s doing to go easy on it for a couple weeks. I’m still waiting to see what will happen when he resumes the more rigorous work, but he feels if he keeps working on it as he has been (acupuncture, manipulating the joints, poultices, laser, infrared, etc.), he’ll be fine, and I bet he probably will be. I don’t think the average person could have done that - his knowledge of anatomy and alternative health came in hand ...
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I just now saw your post. How is your friend doing today? I will pray that he heals swiftly and perfectly, healthy cells regenerating and vibrating at a high level.   [End]
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WEll, he’s still planning heal it without surgery, but the issue with him is that he does therapeutic bodywork - he needs full use of both hands and arms, so it’s his livelihood we’re talking about. He’s spent many years of study and training, does this full time and has a steady waiting list of clients, so that’s the reason that whatever route he goes needs to be the right one for the long term outcome. He has a black belt in Aikido - which is the ”way of harmony,” but he’s pretty tough. On the other hand, he hasn’t experienced chronic pain - which I’ve spent most of my life dealin ...
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Thanks, everyone! Printing off your responses for him. We did some measuring of the angles of his arm bones today, the broken arm compared to the good one. It does look off, and he still plans to keep working with it himself. I’m sure all of the doctors he saw would be horrified to see what he’s doing, out of his cast and messing with it - lol! All I can say is I would love for him to avoid surgery, but I hope he’s healing it and not making it worse by manipulating it. I think it’s a bit of an experiment, and things like his entire livelihood and us not losing our house are re ...
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thanks so much, you guys. I knew I’d get some good answers here. I will tell him about the magnesium and K2. Pretty crazy, but he just spent the last couple hours working on it with moksa, oils and I think accupuncture, and he said he just got the joint to ”pop,” I said was that a good pop? And he thinks he just basically reset that long bone. I hope he’s right... but if anyone can do it, I think it’s him.   [End]
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Sorry about the off-topic post, but this is a smart group and thought you guys might have some ideas. My husband fractured his arm/wrist on a hike a few weeks ago, it’s a compression type fracture with a little triangular piece of the ulna at the wrist that was displaced maybe 2 millimeters. Caught himself with his right arm (his dominant arm/hand) coming down a slope when he slipped. The docs he saw out in Seattle just casted him, didn’t think he needed surgery, but he was advised to follow up ASAP with an orthopedic surgeon here. Which he did, and that guy sent him to a hand sp ...
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I am thrilled too! Thank you! I feel like I’m finally pointing in the right direction, lets just hope that the remedies for all this stuff work. I think Dr. B puts everybody with low thyroid on iodine, unless possibly they’re allergic. We didn’t even do a loading test, but I had already started taking it myself, which he knew about. I stopped the Lugol’s for the most part a couple weeks ago. My cycles have been a little wonky for about 3 months, I’m 43, so I’m not sure if that’s ”normal.” For the first time in awhile, though, now I’ve got the sore, swollen boob thing which hit ...
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she was the best little dog, had her for 15 years. Feisty, and bossy if I let her be. I’m very sorry to hear about your loss. I used to have recurring nightmares that she would run out in traffic. I haven’t had a dog since and will probably get another small one someday, but would be nervous about walking a little dog in my neighborhood now. I wouldn’t even leave a small dog alone in our fenced back yard, they are tough, but kind of delicate, easily stolen and little escape artists sometimes.   [End]
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thanks! I hope that once I get some of these ”detox pathways” opened up, I’ll be able to re-start iodine in higher doses again, since it may be just a matter of timing. It did reduce (I think) some FBD, but it’s so hard to tell what’s up with anything affected by hormones right now because I’m swinging into that perimenopausal territory. My testing shows a call for iodine by the thyroid, but the only forms I test well on deliver trace amounts. I guess I’m going with that for now. Maybe it’s my liver and kidneys just saying ”no, not yet, we ain’t ready!” ;) lol.   [End]
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thanks! I hope I’m not speaking too soon, but I just have a good feeling I’m finally going in the right direction. It’s hard being human!   [End]
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Just realized how self indulgent it must sound to have written all that. I definitely don’t expect anyone to give a rip, I thought it might help someone else figure out their own stuff. I’ve certainly been chasing this brass ring of good health long enough. If things start to improve, I think I’ll be able to say what I’ve learned is that we’re all so individual in what approach is the right one for each of us, and one size does not fit all. I’ve run into so much dogma on Curezone over the years about what one way is the right way (which is different in every forum), and while I think h ...
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Sorry, this is long, feel free to move on, I don’t know how to edit myself. ;0) I saw a woman in Brownstein’s office who does electro-dermal screening - which I’ve had in the past, but apparently this is newer technology, and I was pretty impressed. When I first met her I thought, gosh, she looks really young, but she’s got an encyclopedia in her head and from the sounds of it, was trained by a a multi-PHD genius and is still constantly studying - right now biochemistry. I got an hour and half with her and I wish I wasn’t so foggy, I can only remember what I wrote down. I guess Brow ...
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thanks, I hope you find your answers. Bloated belly is familiar territory - if you’re not generally overweight, it is more likely bowel imbalance & gas and/or too much old fecal matter vs. abdominal fat, particularly if it feels rather firm. Have you been checked for fibroids? They can get quite large and make you look pregnant, too, if you have them.   [End]
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I’ll try adding the sea salt, that’s more than I typically add. I do drink at least that much water and sometimes more. On days when I’m out running around and don’t get as much, I do feel it. Sometimes it seems like an unnaturally large amount, though, doesn’t it? Like you’d think you’d feel thirsty if you needed more. I sometimes have to force myself to get it down. A lot of times by the end of the day I’m still downing it at 11:00 PM, and then I’m up peeing 3 times during the night - lol!   [End]
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thanks, I’ll borrow my mom’s BP cuff and check that out. I’m a little stiff first thing in the AM, and yeah the bottoms of my feet had been sore, but I attributed it to the circulation issue (blood pooling in my feet), and that’s been better since I started wearing compression socks and orthotics. Still don’t like to walk around without shoes, though. I’ll have to find out about the B-5.   [End]
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interesting, thanks. Trapper, any thoughts on that? The part that jumped out at me: ”...Although individuals with underlying autoimmune thyroid disease are more likely to develop complications of excess iodine ingestion.” I do think I’ve got an autoimmune thing, I know I’ve heard Brownstein say Hashimoto’s with me, but I found out yesterday there’s a specific antibody that shows up on testing for that, and I need to find out what my lab results were. Someone here recommended a book that suggests if you’ve got underlying immune problem that’s attacking the thyroid, supplemental iod ...
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I really appreciate your suggestions and thinking about this total stranger when no doubt you’ve got better things to do. I really don’t want to sound like I’m making excuses, I’ve just been doing all those things already, so I’m kind of stumped and trying to unravel this picture because I know there’s some major component that’s being missed. For sure I’m still hypothyroid, I’ve got nearly all the ”symptoms,” and I’m getting alarmed at how thin my hair is on top. I downloaded this little program called ”cool timer” last year and set it to go off every 35 minutes, which is when I get ...
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Hey. Yeah, I started wearing good orthotics awhile ago. My DH is a bodyworker, so I get lots of attention to that kind of thing, good chiropractic care, and my posture could be better, but this isn’t a postural thing. It’s hard to describe the level of deep aching and muscle fatigue, it doesn’t even make sense. My gut feeling is I’ve got an underlying problem that got severely aggravated by all the sitting I have to do for work, and I sort of hit the threshold and passed a point of no return, though I’m trying not to internalize the idea that this isn’t reversible. I’d love to cut dow ...
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Ok, I’m printing off your post to take to the nurse next week, and if I get to that other holistic M.D. at some point soon. When I saw the nurse that does the testing today, her impressions were that I was blocking both magnesium and iodine, almost like an allergy to both in the sense that my body just isn’t using it, and it might be on an ”energetic” level. I’m still not sure. She says allergy doesn’t necessarily mean obvious symptoms like breaking out in hives, it can be something like your body just not utilizing a nutrient. She couldn’t seem to find an iodine form that worked for ...
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you know, I have no idea anymore - liver/thyroid - whether the chicken or the egg came first. I guess it can’t hurt to work on them both. I’m wondering if it’s possible to ever completely eradicate parasites, I’ve done plenty of that type of cleansing, too, but I have no idea whether any came out with the flushes. I’m pretty sure mine are mircoscopic, more the protozoa variety, so I wouldn’t see them anyway. I looked close on most of the flushes, too.   [End]
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Hi! Funny you should ask because I drink plenty of water, 3 large glasses warm first thing in the AM then throughout the day, and actually use celtic sea salt very liberally, yet Brownstein’s checked my sodium levels twice and still they were low. Actually I think in the normal range according to tests, but by his book, low. Low potassium, too. so I’m supping with potassium bicarb and trying to use even more salt, adding it to water, putting a little rock of it under my tongue. geez. I can’t understand that either, because supposedly if we eat from nature - which I pretty much do... ...
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Would you recommend the SSKI 2% for me over the Lugol’s? What would be the dosage? In reading your post above, I’m wondering if the ”selenium and Vit. C stores” are low for me because despite supplementation, it’s not getting into my cells (maybe because of poor gut metabolism), and so the reason I’m testing ”no” with kinesiology on the various forms of iodine is because of the oxidative stress thing. I know that’s a leap... but it’s not like I’ve got a doctor working on that question for me - lol!   [End]
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For sure that’s a piece of it, but GAWD, I’ve done about 10 of those liver flushes, and most were very successful. That was a few years ago, though, and I feel like my liver never fully recovered - STILL. AT the time it seemed like the flushes started to feel too harsh (I did them about once a month for a year or so), so I stopped and just stuck with herbs & stuff. My skin looks almost normal, now - it had a yellow cast for a few years before the flushes produced a lot of stones, but I still see the yellow occasionally, it comes and goes. I still have a tendency to get bile stagnation, ...
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Hi Trapper! You know, I’ll have to ask about that ”uptake barrier,” I figured if I used 50mg long enough, I’d get there. I wonder why I’m testing with a ”no” on it. But that assumes I put my faith in kinesiology. Yeah I used the transdermal magnesium daily for about 6 weeks (either head to toe or just legs), then cut down to about twice a week because it’s such a PIA. I don’t do the epsom’s bath (no time to sit in the tub and frankly I just hate baths....), but I guess I should get back to more of the transdermal mag again. The nurse I’m seeing (who used to work at Brownstein’s) sa ...
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Oh yea, I rarely miss a day now of at least half hour on the eliptical machine for a good sweat, and I get up every half hour or so to jump on the rebounder for a few min, and at least once a day ”drain” my legs by putting them up on the wall. I do weight bearing ex. a couple times a week, and I’m trying to do more stretching, but I often run out of time for that part. I miss the occasional day when I’m feeling really bad, like a bad headache and I just can’t force myself on those days, but maybe I need to anyway. Meditating half hour to an hour every day (or trying to... I’m using the ...
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Thanks. Yeah, I try to do that, but I feel like my radar is hit and miss. Right now I’m sitting here feeling like my heart’s going too fast and i’m having some muscle twitches, plus my legs are killing me and my feet are starting to cramp. It’s been 2 weeks since my last injected vitamin cocktail, and I don’t think I can even go 2 weeks. The fact that I have to bypass my gut to get any benefit from supplemental magnesium seems telling. But, I’ve misdiagnosed myself before.   [End]
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Well, it’s about a hundred times better than what most americans eat, but obviously still not optimal for me, as I still get bloating and gas, particularly with carbs. I’m quite sure I still have a problem with flora imbalance. In recent months I’ve added non gluten grains again, so it’s mostly all whole, unprocessed foods with plenty of veggies, fish or chicken a couple times a week, some fruit (mainly berries), and no dairy, or very rarely in small amounts. Very little processed food. Liberal healthy fats and celtic sea salt. Despite that, I think I’m in denial that I probably need ...
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I’ve been doing Brownstein’s protocol using Lugol’s and I haven’t been noticing much change, I think it’s been over a year, in fact some things are getting worse, and while I kept up the iodine, it felt not quite right to me. Someone recommended a book that suggests some people need to address an underlying immune issue vs. just supplementation, and given my low white cell and low lymphocyte count, I think that makes sense. Apparently once you heal that (and the gut is often a big part of it, which I know I have a problem with), people often don’t continue to need natural thyroid hormone ...
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I just started getting some lymphatic drainage work (amazing technique) and the therapist told me that area always is the first and last place she works on, it’s like a main drainage point or something. I’ve got swollen nodes all over the place, but I’ve seen some improvement after only a few treatments. I’d love to get an infrared sauna, that’s supposed to help a lot. I’d see someone experienced in lymphatic work before a doc if it were me, but that’s me...   [End]
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thank you! I’ll look it up.   [End]
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thank you so much! My husband loves the health gadgets, so we will definitely check that out. The funny thing about raw diet is that it seems to really improve some things for me (I do think I noticed my gums were healthier on it and I had less headaches), but other things it seems to aggravate - in the way a lot of cold, raw foods would imbalance ”vata” constitution. I find it impossible to follow in anything but the warmest part of summer. A friend gave me a big automatic sprouter, and I’m so intimidated by the thing I haven’t set it up yet, but I need to get that going. I ...
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do you have a link to your ionizing toothbrush? What kind of toothpaste or tooth powder do you use, if any? I wonder if that thing about the glycerine in toothpaste preventing remineralization of enamel is true. I already have a lot of damage from I don’t even know what, but 2 sets of orthodontics were probably part of it. I have fillings around the tops of almost all my teeth at the gum line and they don’t even seem to be holding, either that or I’ve got further recession. Despite always careful brushing and flossing, which I’m wondering now might have made things worse. I o ...
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you know, it’s so frustrating because I’ve done that, gone off all supplements, and I don’t typically do well that way, either. My diet is very good, very clean, and I pretty much live on organic fruits and veggies. Which is why I was surprised my potassium was low, I’m taking potassium bicarb 3 x day right now. I was also supposedly low in sodium, despite not restricting salt in my diet, so I’ve increased that (celtic sea salt), but I wouldn’t doubt my electrolyte balances are still off. On my blood tests, mag was very low but calcium was fine, which I assume is why they’re pushing so ...
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actually he didn’t send me to the vein guy, I went myself because I felt like I had to rule out blood clots, but he might have, anyway. He didn’t think it was clots, and he was right. I’ve done a LOT of more holistic approaches over the years, and I didn’t start cracking this nut until I went back to Dr. B and finally got some testing and evaluation by him, so I’m not giving up on him yet. I think I just have to push him a little, or not be satisfied to wait 4 months or more without my symptoms improving to explore the next option in trying to get to the bottom of it. I’m rethinking g ...
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thanks, I haven’t heard of one of those, but I’ll have to look it up. My husband has a chi machine knock-off which he has loaned out to a client right now, and I was wondering if that might help. Now that I’ve read Wombat’s post about heart issues as a result of low thyroid possibly causing the edema, I’m hoping I can get to the root cause. I don’t know if I’m happy to have possibly found it, or bummed out that it sounds like it could be kind of serious!   [End]
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thanks a bunch for the info! I would not have even considered this. I’m scared now... but I’ll ask Dr. B about it. I know I had some tests in the hospital last November when I was in for the appendix perforation, one might have been an EKG, I’m not sure, but no one has suggested, including the vascular specialist I saw about my legs, that there might be a heart issue or that I should get more tests. There is certainly a strong family history of heart problems, though it wouldn’t surprise me if we’re all hypo and that’s the reason. I’ve never had high BP, and on occasion it’s act ...
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That is a good idea, thanks!! I hadn’t noticed any particular ”extra” swelling when I get the IV mag, and I wasn’t supping with extra calcium because on the blood test, anyway, my levels were fine, but maybe this a growing, accumulating imbalance. I’ll have to pay closer attention. Come to think of it, when I first started having the cramping, I didn’t have the swelling and that weird, heavy, weakness and cold feeling in my lower legs and feet. I know I’ve read that calcium is supposed to be necessary with magnesium for proper absorption or something, but I’ve read different opinions ab ...
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Hello! :) You’re a sweetheart. I’ve kind of lost track, but well over a year on the iodine, with a short break while I had that appendix perforation and recovery. (still have my appendix!) The massive amounts of antibiotics no doubt did some damage along with helping. The things I’m taking pretty much without fail are Lugol’s 50mg all at once in the AM, selenium, C, Vit. D liquid/oil, magnesium in various forms (lately I’m liking a liquid from a company that makes trace minerals), digestive enzymes, trace minerals, melatonin at night, and extra salt in my water and food because ...
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I could really use any thoughts, advice, suggestions, inspirations, hunches or lightbulb moments....sorry this is a long one. Still struggling with the leg thing - pain, aching, cramping, swelling. Not overweight, never have been, but my legs are getting bigger and it’s not fat. At this point I’m not sure whether it’s lymph, circulation, or both. It seems to be just my lower body, basically waist down. I even think my butt is retaining fluid. I can’t function without compression socks now, and it feels like it’s soon to be the pantyhose. If I go an hour or two in the morning witho ...
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do you take Vitamin E, and what kind/brand? I just bought some yesterday and realized after the fact that it contains soy oil, which I usually avoid.   [End]
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Thanks for this! I need to get Sally Fallon’s book off the shelf and start using it again. I was not eating grains at all for several years, but recently started adding them back into my diet, and the most I’ve been doing is soaking overnight. I think I need to go for quite a more sour buckwheat porridge! I’ve been making Rejuvelac, but my last batch was really off. I find though I’m of Northern & Eastern European descent, I don’t do well with dairy, even long ferment yogurt and kefir.   [End]
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caffeine in the coffee being a vasoconstrictor might make you more cold. I’m still dealing with the cold thing, as well, and circulatory issues in my legs and feet in particular that may be related to my thyroid, or maybe my sedentary job, or both. Still figuring that out. I’m actually a patient of Dr. Brownstein’s.   [End]
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still popping in to read occasionally, but not posting... though when I saw this I had to respond. My DH was a long term pot smoker, probably 30 years, more lightly in recent years, but he had a daily habit when I met him that continued through our first year of living together. It made me crazy because while I wanted to be ”cool” about it, I knew it was a problem, he just was a dumber version of himself when he was high, disconnected, and it made him withdraw, though in his mind it made everything better. He admitted to needing it to feel normal. We very nearly split up over i ...
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Any thoughts on traditional miso? It’s the only soy I consume (knowingly). I avoided tofu and other soybean products even before I read the negative press starting years ago simply because it always gave me a terrible case of the farts. Recently, though, I’ve been making hearty miso stews with lots of daikon, fresh shitake and maitake, and feeling great on those.   [End]
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I thought the ratio was opposite - double the mag to the calcium? I’d been supplementing with food form (megafoods or garden of life) cal/mag, and added extra mag when when I was having more cramping, but turns out I was not absorbing most or any of it, as I found out through blood testing I was really low in both magnesium and potassium (along with sodium, iron and vit-D). I put off that testing a long time, as I was sure my levels had to be good, given all the supplementation. My situation started out with restless legs for 5-7 years, then progressed to more tiny muscle twitches and t ...
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LOL! Also how about a potato peelings cure forum? LOL.....   [End]
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I have to try this. Wombat when is your next brew? I lost my mind for a second and bought some crazy expensive, all natural lotion, Dr. Alkatis or something like that, double packaged in non-recyclable plastic, and I don’t even like it. I need some good face lotion that distributes nicely and isn’t too greasy, even tho I’m not oily, and an eye cream. I was using your hand cream sample as an eye cream!   [End]
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I had cramping and weakness mostly in my legs, found out I had become really deficient in magnesium, sodium, potassium, iron and Vit. D. I am taking potassium bicarb on my doc’s advice, and I think that was necessary along with the magnesium oil. I’ve done 3 intravenous injections with magnesium and other stuff in it, and they have helped also. I’ve got one more scheduled, and I think I might see about getting a couple more. I don’t like being dependent on supplements, but despite an ultra healthy diet, my gut still needs a lot of work, and I don’t think I was absorbing much minerals o ...
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Ok, well, I just thought that structural integration was something that might interest people who were working on healing with herbs and cleansing protocols. Actually the bowel cleanse was the one thing I DID do consistently for more than 30 days, I ran out of the #2, which is why I ordered more. I was going to keep going, but I stopped the #2 because things were slowing down in my GI tract, confusing because I was on a mostly raw vegan diet during that time with plenty of liquids, making my own Rejuvelac, etc. I began upping the #1 dose at that point and did a few enemas, but still blo ...
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Did that title make you look? LOL! I thought you guys might find this interesting. I saw my new-ish OBGYN today who is actually pretty open minded and holistic, and the only doc I’ve seen so far who believes me and agrees when I told him I think my symptoms of appendicitis, bowel issues, fibroid, endo/heavy periods and leg and lymph circulation are all related. In spite of my chiropractor doing some work on my sacrum over the last year, it still has never felt right, I’ve been knock-kneed and rolling in at the hips forever, and my GYN said my sacrum/coccyx/tailbone was pointing way o ...
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ACV bomb? I was under the impression blackstrap molasses was sort of a heavily processed and refined product, so I wasn’t sure about taking it, but I know it’s supposed to be a good source of iron, right?   [End]
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thanks, I’ll check it out. This has all been a bit overwhelming, recently. Nothing on any of my allopathic tests has come up with kidney dysfunction, but I guess that doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem. I am taking potassium bicarb per Dr. Brownstein’s recommendation, and between that and the topical/transdermal magnesium oil, and at this point, compression socks most of the day, the cramping is less severe. Maybe I wouldn’t need the potassium bicarb after a kidney cleanse. My husband looked up where these minerals are absorbed in the body, and he said the small intestine, which I kno ...
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I found Schulze’s 5 day, but not a 10 day cleanse. Do you have a link? There’s something in his description of the potassium broth ”flushing unwanted salts.” Apparently I’m low in sodium, as well. I’ve actually never done an official kidney cleanse.   [End]
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oh yeah, that’s right, I forgot about the potassium broth. Thanks! I think I need to drink about 5 gallons a day of that stuff. That’s a lotta veggies. Is it just me, or does anyone else have a hard time throwing out the babies and drinking the bathwater (i.e. making soup stock...) lol! I hate to see all those perfectly good taters tossed away. :)   [End]
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Anyone know if it’s a good or bad idea to fast while electrolytes are really imbalanced? I found out I’m extremely low in potassium, sodium, and magnesium (part of the muscle cramping problem I’ve been having, no doubt). Incidentally also iron and Vit. D. I was originally planning to start a juice fast next week, but I’ve got a gazillion appointments scheduled, and I’m so messed up with the leg cramping that I can barely go out and get through a grocery store, I am kind of afraid to potentially make it worse. Yet I know the reason I’m so off is at least partly poor gut absorption, so i ...
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you know, I’ve been taking it on a empty stomach all this time without a problem if I drink enough water (which can be tough before bed, but I’m up in the middle of the night, anyway). I just read from a different Schulze info source that it ”works better” when taken with a meal. Duh! I am not a very good label reader, so I’ve started doing that, now. I think it does work better that way, not sure why.   [End]
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I checked out this post because despite plenty of bowel cleansing and a really ultra healthy plant based diet, I’m having inexplicable constipation recently. I think it’s partly pelvic congestion from fibroids, etc. possibly squishing the colon, but also feeling like it’s time for another liver flush, and noticing stools are too light-colored (not enough bile). I do think lack of bile can slow digestion, and wonder if that’s what’s happening in my case. If I were the person asking this question, I think I’d get a series of colonics or do some higher volume enemas, and then liver f ...
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I haven’t done one in probably 3-4 years now, but prior to that I got through 10 with no puking, but definitely nausea with each one, some flushes worse than others. I found the nausea was worse on the flushes when I seemed to get more out. Partly mind over matter, positioning, and for me - I mixed lemon juice with the grapefruit juice, made sure I was well hydrated that day (didn’t stop water quite as early as Hulda Clark recommends), and rubbed a high quality essential oil of peppermint under my nose. I’m feeling like I might be needing to do another one soon, and really not l ...
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I think that’s key, you’re right - simplicity, and listening to your body. I don’t always hear so well... it’s really easy to get pulled in 10 different directions with a lot of conflicting information, but simple foods, with carbs and/or fruits eaten alone is what feels right to me. I liked the starches better, too, like you. I think what I’m trying to figure out is what diet is a healing diet if I stay on it long enough, through any rough patches. My DH wants to start making kichadis, like an aureurvedic healing diet. I’m just thinking - rice and mung dal... I don’t think there’s an ...
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LOL - I know the food combining rules, which is why I asked for the green veggie instead of the fries. But I’ve been known to break the rules, and my digestion definitely suffers for it when I do. I’ve been eating plenty of brazil nuts and dark leafy greens, leeks occasionally, garlic, but I swear to god, no matter how that argument stacks up as ”truth” to me, the whole raw food thing, my body seems to want something different, I apparently absorbed the nutrients better today from the animal protein meal. I have a friend who totally recovered from mestastasized breast cancer on raw food ...
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yeah, I’ve seen that site and that list of symptoms. I have a few of ’em, but not too many, though it does make me wonder how much of my stuff is directly related. I didn’t take iodine today because I’ve got to clear up the concrete poop thing and I know it’s making it worse right now. I’m worried my appendix is going to blow out for good this time, as that was the prequel to the last episode. I don’t know if it’s coincidence, the compression socks I managed to keep on most of the day, or my lunch out with my husband, where I limped a couple blocks from the car to the restaurant - ...
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Thanks, and I did think of that. It might have been one of the tests done, a fasting blood sugar, but I’m not sure, I’ll have to ask Dr. B. I would be SO surprised, since I have none of the other symptoms and a very healthy diet, but my dad has diabetes, he was diagnosed with it around age 65. I assumed it was self-induced in his case with a SAD diet and lack of exercise. My hunch right now is I was prone to this circulation problem genetically, but chose a job with a ridiculous amount of sitting which has escalated things to a point where I’m almost incapacitated by it. Yesterday ...
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groovy, thank you. I used to drink pau d’arco tea, but I probably wasn’t doing enough of the other things to make a real difference. I’ll have to get some more, since that’s one of the easier ones to make. Recently I’ve been gravitating away from anything not in food form, plant form, etc., trying to avoid isolated nutrients, but I’m thinking about doing some systemic enzymes again - at the very least hoping to dissolve what’s probably a large fibroid. I read in the natural healing forum about vitamin C throwing off copper balance or something, what do you think about that? There ...
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thank you! It does sound similar to my stuff. I was really surprised about the low sodium because it felt sort unnatural to eat more salt than I already was, and when I added it, it seemed to worsen the cramping (probably because my mag and potassium were out of balance and I didn’t know it). This feels like a really multifaceted issue, and while the cramping is starting to improve, I’ve still got a heavy, numb feeling in my legs that goes up to my butt or groin sometimes, and I’m starting to suspect something neurologic, too. Maybe just nerve damage from so much sitting for work, ...
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I’ve probably read it somewhere on curezone before, but what was the basis of your candida cure? I am still imbalanced, and that homeopathic bio-energetic testing I had showed a lot of mucus in the small bowel with microscopic parasites and candida, with the large intestine also involved. No big surprise. I remembered the other deficiency was iron, and all those things are absorbed in the small bowel, I think.   [End]
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hm, interesting. Good to know, thanks. I’m assuming this is temporary, and he’s checking my bloodwork again with about 2 weeks of being on it. I would imagine it’s tricky bringing balance with this stuff. I mean, it shouldn’t be, and I always try to get nutrients from natural sources, but that approach wasn’t working for me, I assume because I still have a lot of healing to do with my gut. I think between this and hormonal changes, I’m just going to have to be monitored a little more closely so I can keep all my levels where they’re supposed to be.   [End]
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The leg problem I thought was circulation-related had been getting worse and worse since last September. I ended up seeing Brownstein for more testing when an ultrasound of my veins and arteries didn’t show anything major (spider veins and what I do think are the beginnings of some varicrose veins), and none of that explained the level of severity of the symptoms. By this time I’d been having several long episodes every day of major cramping and even the usual elevation and heat wasn’t helping much. I could barely get through a grocery store, if I could even go out. Just got my resu ...
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a couple years ago I bought a bottle of it in a delusional moment, apparently, but was afraid to use it after reading more and getting a BAAAAD feeling about it. I still have it, since you’re supposed to be able to purify water with it - my husband hoards a few things for ”when the shit goes down.” lol! Not exactly a survivalist, but I guess a case of rice and a few extra bottles of water make him feel better. I hope he’s wrong, but I know he’d fare a lot better than me without air conditioning, a blow dryer and the internet. :)   [End]
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dh just told me he picked up some for me already at the liquor store and bought Absolut. He said he only wants to put the purest stuff in his property - lol!!   [End]
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So I have some loose herbs here that was way too expensive for making tea, but it’s supposed to dissolve fibroids and there are instructions for making a tincture. It doesn’t say what kind of alcohol. Does it matter? What kind do you guys recommend? Like 100 proof vodka? Brandy?   [End]
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great idea about preparing the next dose. A little buzz is not ALWAYS a bad thing, but 5 times a day was starting to feel like too much alcohol. I’m really that sensitive. Esp. with that extra TB of ecchinacia I’m adding with this stupid sinus infection I’ve got now.   [End]
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oops, I did miss it, thanks!   [End]
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I’m a major lightweight when it comes to alcohol, probably because my liver still needs work. I never drink, maybe a sip of wine here and there when DH orders it at a restaurant, but now that I’m taking about 5-6 different tinctures all throughout the day, is there a way to minimize the alcohol, like putting the drops in boiling hot water or something, or would that ruin the effect? It’s almost like doing a shot for me, esp. if on an empty stomach.   [End]
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Oh No! Sounds like I might be better off with the occasional cup of organic coffee. What a bummer. I bought a big bag of it, too. Well, thanks for pointing that out. I don’t know why some of that didn’t occur to me before. Denial, I guess! You know, I’m getting to the point where I trust almost no one who wants to make a buck off me. I know business can’t operate without profit, but when it’s the absolute bottom line to the detriment of the consumer.... it’s kind of a deal with the devil. Sometimes I want to chuck modern life and just go off the grid and live in the wo ...
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Very glad to hear it’s a good product! I had it twice today. I typically would never sweeten coffee, but with this stuff, I do when I’m using the coconut cream in it. I do on a rare occasion still have a little coffee as a treat, and I time it when I know I’m most likely to be able to handle it (i.e. not right before Aunt Flo). Thanks for the tips on the other drinks, I’ll look those up, as well. So many beverages, so little time, lol! My kidney tea came today with the tinctures, so I’ll probably be drinking that pretty exclusively for the next few weeks.   [End]
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great, thanks. I wonder sometimes if that’s what it takes, varying the products and taking for a longer period of time when you have a really stubborn infection. Are you doing the bowel cleansing too and a more alkalizing diet? I’m thinking that’s essential to really knocking them out (or knocking them back, as I suspect you can never be totally rid of parasites).   [End]
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so far I’ve been putting all the tinctures together in a little water, and frankly I get a little buzzed with that amount of alcohol because I’m such a lightweight. I’ll wait to see what they tell you about that, though. Post how you like the parasite stuff. I need to do another cleanse soon and was thinking of getting Barefoot’s just because it worked well for me in the past, but I recall feeling like it was pretty harsh, though my liver was in worse shape, then.   [End]
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LOL, I get bodywork all the time, I’m married to one! I’m a very lucky girl. He does mostly zero balancing and craniosacral work on me in recent years, though. Jin Shin Do (I think that’s how it’s spelled) on my legs in particular, and I should let him do accupuncture, but I hate his needling technique, it’s really painful. Foot reflexology is not so much his forte, but he could do it, and I should be doing it on myself more than currently. I’m less targeted in my approach, more like an overall foot massage or rolling around on a golf ball. He’s kind of done with his massage days, bu ...
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I never liked coffee until my mid-20’s when i had my first very milky latte type of drink at an italian coffee house over the border in Canada, before there was starbucks and cappuccinos in my area, and I was hooked. (I also thought I was gonna have a heart attack since I wasn’t used to that much caffeine.) I think I had never tried GOOD coffee before. Gradually used less and less milk until I was drinking very dry caps and espressos, and I’d brew my own daily. Ah, it was a lovely affair while it lasted... My liver didn’t like it, so I had to stop. I have it as a very rare treat, now, ...
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darn, just placed an order for some other stuff, I shoulda read this first. Sounds like a good one to have on hand. I’m getting a sore throat as of yesterday, but it’s only my throat (no other symptoms) and I have a suspicion it’s actually from the cayenne tincture, since I’m finally taking the full dosage. Well, next time I guess. I usually am caught empty handed when I get sick, I need to put together an emergency herbal kit.   [End]
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I gave up coffee a long time ago, but not without some grieving! I still miss its hearty, roasty goodness, but I found this Dandy Blend stuff at the health food store recently. I usually don’t like grain coffees, but I think it’s the dandelion in this one that makes it taste better. Now if anyone tells me it’s not good for me, I might cry... it’s just herbal extracts, though I’m sure they’re processed for taste more than health. here’s the link: http://www.dandyblend.com/ I like it better doctored up a little, and lately I’ve been having it about double strength, hot, with a co ...
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Yeah, I have been forgetting to take the cayenne tincture as often as I should, which I will improve on (yes I know it’s not that hard, and I can’t explain why I brain fart a lot of things despite best intentions, I guess when I get focused on whatever task I’m doing at the moment, I forget about everything else and time flies), but I AM getting up and moving at least once an hour, NOW, for the most part. I have the occasional day where I know I miss a few breaks if I get stuck on a phone call or something, and I’ll try the timer method because even though I’ve got a little clock in the c ...
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WEll, I don’t really cook that much, I eat pretty simple things, steamed veggies or squash, salads, green smoothies, and when I’m really busy, I get carry outs from a local vegetarian restaurant I trust for healthy, clean food. Juicing without a doubt takes me far longer than my usual food routines, at least in the Green Star it does. My DH is on his own most of the time. The friend I gave the Norwalk to on indefinite loan (a gift, really) had metastasized breast cancer and beat it, and I’m convinced that juicer was a big part of her recovery. She would have never spent the money o ...
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thanks, hawthorne and bilberry, I’ll see if Uny has those in her shop, I need to place another order soon. Taking cayenne in tincture form, Uny’s recommended dosage, though I rarely remember to take it more than once or twice a day. I need to get one of those alarm watches or something. I think I lose track of time when I’m working and don’t get up as often as I should. Of course a couple months ago when this got really bad, I paid much closer attention, but I feel like the damage was done by then, so to speak. Many years of sitting far longer than I should at a stretch, and frankly ...
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Looking for additional suggestions for circulation issues to legs. I think it’s some genetic weakness aggravated by sitting so much for work. The things I’ve been doing so far, though not all perfectly: Cayenne, hot cold showers (cold is not well tolerated right now - sets off major cramping), exercise, breathing, bowel cleansing with #1 and #2, Butcher’s broom, and probably a juice fast the first week of March. Skin brushing when I remember, stretching (though that sometimes makes it worse, too). Elevating my legs with a lot of heat right now is the only thing that brings relie ...
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that hippocrates sounds similar to my green star, which I love less now after reading the omega review. Slow as molasses is right with the twin gear, and to put a fat carrot through that’s as wide as the narrow chute, I practically have to stand on top of it. It runs circles around the champion for greens, very dry pulp and makes great juice - I can tell it’s much more alive than centrifuged juice, but I know I will never do serious regular juicing without something faster. I used to have a Norwalk which I gave to a friend who needed it more than I did, but while it demolished large veg ...
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Wow, that’s interesting. The images were so graphic, so specific, and SO disturbing. Like the worst kind of violent, sick, demonic video game. That’s what I felt like I was watching, and during it I was so surprised to be seeing it - like where is this craziness coming from? I didn’t feel there was any threat, if what I was seeing were real entities, didn’t worry they could hurt me, I was definitely wide awake and could stop it just by opening my eyes, it was just kind of like this ugly, low underworld I was forced to watch. There was a point where I felt like I could steer it in a be ...
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That sounds a little like some of what Eckhart Tolle has written about, as far as his everyday surroundings looking different following his psychic break when he was suddenly spiritually transformed. When I was watching his videos, one of the first things that struck me between the eyes was his instruction on one way to connect with your infinite self - beginning with ”Imagine you don’t have a name.” The loss of ”identity” has always been a big confusing fear for me. The idea that I am not who I am, or that I will ”lose” who I am (or who I think I am) after death. Will I become so ...
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Yep. What he said. Do you have any sort of inner ear imbalance? My dad does, and while I don’t know the root cause, he gets the spins when he doesn’t take a particular med for it. Not that I’m advocating it, because I’m sure he could address it naturally if he wanted to, but just wondered because of the extreme dizziness. Also when did you take the hydrocodone before this episode? Was it still in your system? I was in the hospital for 5 days recently with perforated appendicitis. This involved all the stuff I’ve avoided for years - antibiotics and painkillers, but I took ’e ...
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If you like this, you have got to see: http://www.regretsy.com/ It’s hilarious but at the expense of the ”artists” who get ”discovered,” for the most part.   [End]
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We have a really good health food store in Metro Detroit that carries everything that no one else has, including Standard Process which, as far as I know, they sell to the public. They do have nutritional consultants, etc., who work there, maybe that’s why, possibly a naturopath is on staff, in fact it might be the original owner’s daughter if memory serves. Anyway, I know they ship because even though it’s only a half hour drive for me, sometimes I’m just that busy and they’ve sent stuff to me. Just noticed they have a website: http://www.zerbos.com/retailer/store_templates/shell_i ...
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THanks! I’ll look into those other herbs you mentioned. I have heard also that Butcher’s Broom is supposed to be good for things like varicrose veins. I think I’ve got a combination of issues with the circulation, and some of it might be related to my thyroid. Yeah, I’m going to do the juice fast at some point hopefully soon. It is really hard in the dead of winter, it’s gotten very cold here, but mostly it’s a time thing. I’m waiting for one of the docs I work for to go on vacation so I can get some time off or at least a lighter work load. Probably by the time I get to it I’ll ...
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A month ago I spent 5 days in the hospital for perforated appendicitis. Kept the appendix in, but they had to place a drain for a large abscess. Very painful. I was on LOTS of drugs including IV antibiotics and then more antibiotics for about a week at home. I was sure I’d be a huge mess afterwards, but once I started healing, it wasn’t as bad as I thought. Can you fast, or do a juice fast? I must admit I tried and failed that after I got home, but I ate VERY little, and very simple, clean foods in small amounts for the first couple weeks. Ate almost nothing in the hospital. I th ...
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You might try asking over in the Natural Healing forum. They follow basically Richard Schulze, Dr. Christopher and Dr. Gerson’s methods. I’m taking the #1 and #2 bowel formulas (the first one to promote peristalsis and the second one containing some bentonite and charcoal to detox and pull out old stuff), and so far so good, though I’ve gotten out the old mucoid plaque (black rubbery ropes) a number of years ago even though THEN I thought I was clean, but that happened using Barefoot’s de-wormer plus an off-the-shelf psyllium based colon cleanse product. My gut has never been healthy, a ...
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I had my follow up with the surgeon today regarding my appendix (perforated and abscessed about a month ago for anyone who hasn’t heard this little drama). So I’m reassured that they are not ALL out to line their pockets, and some are reasonably open-minded. He said that there is new literature coming out (contested by some doctors in terms of how the studies are performed and the conclusions drawn) that ”interval appendectomy,” i.e. surgery after perforation and abscess (which in my case was drained and treated with antibiotics), may not be necessary, and conservative management may ...
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thank you for posting this! I am actually on Mercola’s mailing list and read this the other day, I forwarded the info to my friend. I gotta think MS was one of the potential diagnoses for her given her neurologic symptoms, but maybe they need to re-visit that. The eye doctor I used to work for told me once that MS was particularly common along the Ohio River Valley... I don’t know where he got that information, read it somewhere in his literature I guess, but it’s interesting to speculate whether that’s a result of some environmental toxin, contaminant, contagion, or genetic, assuming f ...
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thanks for the heads up! I only had time today to listen to the part primarily about the appendix. It’s pretty much what Uny told me, though it doesn’t sound like he necessarily treated anyone with a perforation or peritonitis, not sure. The large abscess and infected fluid spilling into my abdomen was causing some sort of peritonitis, it was so extreme, every muscle in my abdomen was seizing up, getting hard, and definitely the worst pain of my life. Now, had I realized that the previous 2-3 days of pain was building to that, I might have been able to catch it in time, but thinking it ...
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yeah, that makes sense. I long ago gave up ”junk food,” I’ve had my moments over the years, but 95% of the time, nothing processed passes these lips...my worst cheat these days is half a roll at a restaurant. I’ve seen the plaque ropes in the past with other bowel and parasite cleansing protocols, but it’s been awhile since I’ve done something like that, and I still haven’t started the IF #2, so I’m curious what I’ll see. I’ve long thought that the root of my problem was in the colon, and if I could really get that healthy and healed, a lot of my problems would improve. I think ...
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that is a fantastic testimony, thanks for posting the link because I lost track of that thread and needed to read it. I haven’t been able to stay off Curezone today (getting myself into some trouble here in this forum - lol!) even though I’m insanely behind in my work. I am starting to wonder if I was led here (finally after how many years surfing curezone and trying so many different things) because the thing that is coming through most strongly in her writing to me is the spiritual shift in consciousness and steadfast belief in her ability to heal herself, which I bet is a huge part o ...
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I do hope you find healing, and I’m glad to hear your eyes are OK. It really is only my intention to help if I possibly can, just in case anything I’ve read about, seen, learned or stumbled upon might be useful, it’s the reason I butt in and open my big mouth. I have myself searched for years, tried many different things to try to heal, and have found a lot of useful info on curezone, as well as some not so useful! After reading this forum for a few months and talking to Uny, I do believe now that I’ve been missing the basic principle of really doing some deep cleaning out, for which th ...
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Ah, I knew it was risky posting my opinion about this here, I was pretty sure it wouldn’t be well received, and no, I don’t take it personally that you disagree. I appreciate all the help you offer to me and everyone else who comes here, above and beyond the call of duty. I am not good at keeping my mouth shut, and I guess and wanted to kind of clarify and respond to a couple of things, so here I am with one more long winded post, but please understand I’m just trying to figure it all out myself. I mostly surf the forums and rarely offer ”advice,” since what do I know, really, but occas ...
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so I’ve worked for ophthalmologists for over 20 years (not in the medical end, just front office and transcription), and I’ll take a stab at this - doesn’t mean you have to take whatever treatments they might recommend (if anything), but personally I’d see an ophthalmologist to find out what might be going on. Could just be dry eye, could be a circulation issue where blood flow is being impaired to some of the vessels in the eye. (Oftentimes larger circulation problems, emboli, etc. will get diagnosed by eye doctors because the only apparent symptom the patient has is vision loss.) Thin ...
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Thanks a bunch. I think it’s complicated with her, but I really don’t have much more info. Not sure how or why they know for sure it’s iron. Something about a really sophisticated MRI scanner that the other hospitals in the area don’t have, but that’s all I was told. I forwarded the info to my friend who’s looking out for her on this, and if she wants to ask further questions, I’ll refer her here.   [End]
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I’m posting this for a friend of a friend, hoping someone might have some ideas. This woman, I think late 40’s, has had neurologic issues, shaking, etc. for years, not sure how far it goes back, but she was finally diagnosed on some fancy MRI when other tests missed it - a lot of iron deposits in her brain. They aren’t sure whether chelation will help her in terms of whether the chelation agents can cross the blood-brain barrier, something like that. I know this isn’t much information, but I promised to ask around here on Curezone to see if anyone had some ideas or could point her i ...
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thanks, makes sense. I’m in Michigan, and we got our first little bit of snow last night, I think the barefooting season is close to over, but might be worth a try. Right now if I don’t keep my feet warm they cramp up terribly, I’m having a serious problem with circulation in my lower body and my feet going numb, cold, etc., so the only time I’m putting cold on them right now is when I’m doing the hot/cold showers, when I can warm them up a lot, right away. If I can get the circulation problem figured out and under control, I might be able to handle the barefoot thing better.   [End]
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Thanks. .. I must have misunderstood your instructions about starting the IF 1 and 2 because I thought you said to start when my pain level was no more than a ”2 or a 3” with massage of the area, which is about where it’s at now. I actually think the residual pain is more from the scarring area where they put the drain in, some intestinal upset and gas probably from the aftermath of the antibiotics, and aunt flo approaching, which usually means some bloating and cramping - plus the fibroid. It can be hard to define abdominal discomfort, I’m not sure I’m going to be 100% pain-free even ...
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thanks for the reminder, I missed some of that. I did talk to her on the phone and I’m mostly out of pain, now, so by the time the stuff gets here, I think it will be OK to start the bowel formulas. I haven’t been juice fasting, but have been making juice as much as I can, and eating very simple, small meals, not mixing a lot of different foods, and no snacks. Most people probably assume I was on a SAD-type diet, but not so...I’ve been healthy eating for many years now, and in recent months - mostly raw, which is why this surprised me because I thought I was doing so well. Anyway, so f ...
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I haven’t been following your story, as I’m kind of new to this forum, but from what I gather, you are coming off some pharmaceuticals? I don’t know your history at all, and if you are alone through this, I think if it were me I would be concerned about being so sick all by myself (you live alone?), but I wanted to add my 2 cents about drug withdrawal if that’s what you’re going through. About 15 or more years ago, I had a miserable 2 weeks when I stopped all the painkillers, sleeping pills and ”low dose” antidepressants I was taking being prescribed by a prestigious ”headache clinic ...
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forgot to ask.... now that things have settled down a bit with the appendix, as far as I can tell, anyway, what do you think about colonics vs. trying to give myself a ”high enema?” I had a short series of colonics in the past, the first and second seemed to help, but after that I just felt more bloated and actually less peristalsis, so I didn’t go back. I’m guessing your intestinal formulas and the other stuff I ordered will show up tomorrow or the next day, and I’ll be starting those, but still a little freaked about anything more than the typical coffee enemas I’ve done in the pa ...
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what is B & B? Headaches and insomnia have been my MO for years. I still have trouble sleeping almost no matter what I do, so I’m all ears when you said it produces a good night’s sleep and gets rid of headaches.   [End]
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thanks so much for your reply. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel completely overwhelmed right now, as I nearly lost my livelihood over this episode, and in addition to whatever I choose to do in the coming weeks, I still have to work - full time. I will try to respond to a couple of things from above and then get in touch with you about ordering some of your herbs, as I don’t know where to get herbs I know for sure are ”top quality.” We have some good health food stores around here, but I’m just not sure about herbs. The olive leaf is an extract (encapsulated) from Nature’s S ...
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I was using castor oil packs on and off for about a month on my abdomen for what I suspected was fibroids and/or endometriosis. A couple weeks ago, my appendex perforated and I landed in the hospital. I thought I had food poisoning, but coincidentally had an appointment with my holistic M.D. that afternoon and he suggested I go the ER if the abdominal pain got worse because it could be my appendix - which it was, worst pain I ever felt in my life later that night. In looking up appendicitis, I read that the worst thing you can do for an inflamed appendix is put heat on it, it ca ...
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I hope it’s OK that i post this here. Uny I did receive your Schulze DVDs and have watched at least the first one, thank you. Got very busy with work, then a couple weeks ago thought I had food poisoning, ended up in the ER about 48 hours later with the worst abdominal pain I’ve ever felt in my life. Perforated appendix with abscess (appendix 3 x normal size on CT), I was admitted for about 5 days with IV antibiotics, a drain tube for the accumulated infected fluid, and sent home still wearing the drain with another week’s worth of antibiotics. My worse nightmare, basically, being in a ...
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THanks for the info, have you worked with david? I can’t go to Colorado, but maybe there is some way to do it long distance. I can’t go back to that Naturopath, long story, but she’s one of those people who I think has a gift but would be classified as something like paranoid schizoprhenic. I knew she was a little ”off”, but after some very freaky letters she sent to my husband and some other people, I couldn’t in good conscience work with her anymore, I no longer trust her judgment. I saw her about once a month and she’d re-test me, if I didn’t still need the remedy according to her t ...
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thanks so much for the information. Yes, I would not want to have anything done by a practitioner who wasn’t very skilled at it. I’m not sure what I’ll be able to pursue at this point, I’m too overwhelmed with what’s going on and trying not to lose my job over it to do the research right now. I think I was hoping someone here might know of someone I could call, or be able to help me themselves. I guess in the meantime, it can’t hurt to take the Hanna Kroeger Vibropathic Trichinosis homeopathic I still have from the naturopath I used to see. I’m still in a ridiculous amount of pain, I ...
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I was referred here by Newport per this post in my long thread about my recent perforated appendix: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1527086 I know very little about this technology, how it can work remotely, etc., but if anyone can help, I’m interested to hear more. How would a remote treatment work? What is the cost? I’ve done the Hanna Kroeger vibrational homeopathic drops in the past for trich when found on kinesiology by a naturopath I was seeing.   [End]
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not sure what you mean about iliac artery circulation (though I wonder if something like that could be part of my issue with my legs and feet), but the appendix problem I had was explained to me basically like this: http://www.appendicitissymptoms.org/perforated-appendicitis.html I’m seeing a surgeon on Monday to hopefully have the drain removed and see what his recommendations are. I’m sure he’ll be recommending removal, and I’m still on the fence about what to do.   [End]
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thanks for that, I don’t know much about those machines but will look. not surprised about trichinosis, that has come up for me before on homeopathic testing. I was told it was perforated, and they saw that on the CAT scan. I am still wearing the drain which is removing what I guess is infected fluid that leaked out into the abdominal cavity. I was in the hospital for 5 days on IV antibiotics, they put the drain in shortly after I landed in the ER. When this first started, the pain was excruciating in a very sudden manner, I had duller pain for a few days before in the whole a ...
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thanks for the clarification on ingredients, I am still so out of it that I can’t think straight. I’ll call that guy, since I have taken aloe vera juice in the past and know it’s a good product. As to your post above in terms of pain selling people on surgery, I totally get that. But... how will I know if the appendix has really healed? I don’t know if there’s a test for that besides maybe a CAT scan, and I don’t want any more of that radiation than necessary. My fear is another perforation or worse.   [End]
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thanks. The product i ordered has one of those, not the longum, though I’ll look for that. btw, stumbled on this, it looks almost too good to be true, but have you heard of this product?: http://www.digestaqure.com/index.html   [End]
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thank you. I may start making kefir again, but the dairy was questionable for me, though it is really loaded with good bacteria. I ordered a probiotic I’ve used before which seemed good, and found another online that sounds pretty powerful, but it’s hard to know. If you have any specific product recommendations, let me know.   [End]
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I read the articles you linked to, thank you, and talked to a naturopath on the phone this morning my husband wants me to see, who also thinks I should not have surgery. I have to say I am terrified to do it, and terrified not to do it. This has been the worst ordeal I’ve ever been through, and I never want to experience it again, though I also don’t want to set myself up for some of the autoimmune stuff you mentioned. I am just wondering if my appendix has been at the root of my long term gut problems, maybe the source of festering infection for years rather than protecting me from it. ...
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well, I had been on a mostly raw diet the previous month or so and actually feeling pretty good on that otherwise. You never had it drained or operated on? How did you know it was leaking? At this point, despite my natural health approach, I want it out of me. I’m told they are very prone to perforating again or worse once it has happened the first time. I actually think it’s possible I’ve been carrying infection in there for many, many years and it finally just hit me hard. I have felt for a long time that some sort of deep bacterial infection was at the root of a lot of my health ...
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thank you for your message. I have been doing ginger tea and used to make kefir, but wasn’t sure if all the dairy was really agreeing with me. i am still on antibiotics, so it seems useless to supplement with probiotics now, but as soon as I’m off them, I will. I can buy kefir in the store, but not sure how effective it is. I don’t know if the abdominal pain is because there is still fluid that spilled out into the cavity from the appendix, intestinal distress and bloating from the antibiotics and my already poor digestion, or possibly the mass they found on the CT which they thought ...
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I spent 5 days in the hospital and I’m still wearing the drain. After 2 days of thinking I had food poisoning, it got so bad I was on the floor screaming, so I ended up in the place I dread most. I’ve pretty much stopped all my supplements, and I’m not taking pain meds because Vicodin is such a nasty drug, and I get ”rebound” headaches taking even too much Tylenol, so I am really suffering and not sure whether this amount of pain is normal, since most people would be taking meds for that. Of course I’m on the antibiotics, in this case there is no choice, and trying to think of it as an ...
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I’m so freaked out, I saw Dr. Brownstein today and he doesn’t ”think” have appendicitis, but I have a lot of the symptoms including pain over that area and cramping, more tender than he thinks it should be, and an elevated temp, which I guess could occur with food poisoning. I have been more constipated than usual the past couple weeks. I can’t believe this but I may end up going to the ER.   [End]
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thanks, all. this is just awful. I’m almost starting to suspect swine flu, I feel so bad. I took 2 olive leaf caps and I’m not sure I can keep them down.   [End]
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This is either from the disgusting americana dinner 48 hours ago, the Whole Foods hot bar or salad bar stuff the next day which I KNOW better than to eat, or maybe just too much chipotle sauce on an otherwise really great raw meal tonight, but it’s 5 in the morning and my stomach hurts so bad I can’t sleep at all. There’s def. a lot of gas. What do you think, salt water flush? I took some activated charcoal and acidophilus. I’m dying here.   [End]
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You should set up an e-mail list so you can let people know, I assume local is for people close who can pick up, but if not then I missed this one. I like the salve, and you know what I’d really love is a body cream with a big dose of iodine in it that would work over time on all my weird little spots without having to dab here, dab there, and be less oily. Basically I need to slather at least my legs in something like that. Think you might ever make something like that?   [End]
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