I also wanted to round off whatI was saying above with these comments; Sometimes we are not well qualified to assess our suitability for a particular position in life. It is all to easy to use spirituality to escape from the other side of life. I think that I am correct in saying that if I cannot hold a job, achieve stable meaningful relationships, manage my time and money, conquer distructive habits and show other signs of being a well balanced individual then I am not ready to be a Shaman, Pastor, Priest, Iman or Guru but need to consentrate on achieving these more mundane goals that help me to be a balanced, and whole individual. Sometimes that is the path for some of us. Maybe if we honestly checked ourselves for readiness and suitability first, although some pain is necessary, like Vairgari said, for growth then the pain might be more manageable and there would be fewer horror stories.