Ive had hard long term, large and small, sebacious cysts disappear, never to reappear, while on longer(week plus) fasts, and Ive had skin tags completly removed with 30 day programs of topical castor oil or fig sap, come back in the exact same place. Over the century the idea has been that many simple non threatening skin outbreaks are origined at the liver rather than at the manifestation site. Also Ive found that using an oxidizer therapy(MMS, mega dosing Vit C, H2O2) for a thirty day regimin, produces overall health positive effects and one noticed is the receding or elimination of semi permanant skin and or eye (sclera) signs.
I agree with 90% of what Jaguar posts, but in his recent helpful post on avoiding cancer stimulants, there is a small point I contend with(besides his "disagreeing" with the well publicised fact that fasting stimulates the immune system). After having found a study some time ago I posted it recently, and it relates to Jag's post on 'C' and your's on autolysis. (Its from a 2012 study and its no wonder that its conclusions have been ignored since it disproves the value of all currently practiced AMA approved standard of care cancer treatments).
(previous post) http://www.curezone.info/forums/fm.asp?i=2299276
T Seyfried, Cancer as a Metabolic Disease: On the Origin, Management, and Prevention of Cancer (Wiley, 1st ed., 2012).
on.Autolysis: He (Seyfried) proceeded with cancerous lab animal studies, where he put them on a water only diet, and in a matter of days the animals cancerous cells recovered their normal functioning.
He then used the protocol on humans and had the same positive results with the caveat that the glucose levels had to be lower than 65 and the blood ketones level had to be at least 2."
on 'C's origin:
----- after removing the nucleus of a healthy cell and replacing it with the nucleus of a cancerous cell, the cell did not become cancerous. He then replaced the cancerous cell nucleus with one from a healthy cell and that cell did not become healthy." (implicating a causation other than gene related. And Tennant finds it to be Voltage/Oxygen related.)
And of course he (Seyfried) did it numerous times and six different research institutions replicated his experiments findings. All succesfully.
So genes were determined not to be the causative factor. The damaged genes appear to be the results of the cellular environment in cancer, and thus any gene related protocol would be "tecnically" ineffective.
(Further research into this topic also reveal that it is likely that the tumor cell's DNA processing is not as damaged as previous researchers would have us think, due to the actual work being done by the tumors cells in that unusual environment(unusual until we study what happens in the creation of a placenta being prepared------). And that the tumor is created due to specific intra and extra cellular environmental factors and that in changing/reversing those inter and extracellular environmental factors , the tumor is autolyzed by the cells own machinations, quickly).
(The mitochondrial damage percieved by previous researchers (and their assumption of the gene's missworkings), as well as the presence of pathogens in tumors seems to be of secondary outcome and significance, and not as causation for tumor growth).
Traditionaly we have been trained and thus we are predisposed to think only of killing the unwanted. Tho mimicing our body's ability to eradicate using H2O2, Vit C or other oxidising agents can be helpful and even successful, more often than not if the cellular environmental conditions arent metobolicly improved our ailling condition either reappears, morphs or moves to another area of our body.
Furthermore if we use oxidisers at large concentrations or for lengths of time and not account for the free radicals being created by taking large doses of free radical scavengers we will create more stress and breakdown in our systems. Thus using Oxidisers that mimic our bodies abilites needs may be beneficial for numerous minor situations but may not be as good a choice as we assume when we are faced with serious illness. And this is where a more consise understanding of how our systems work and how they become subpar is extremly helpful and important in knowing how to end serious ailments.
Our bodies particular abilities to erradicate disease may be seen as less important than our bodies overall ability to naturally stay healthy/balanced.(This is related to how we switch from an Aerobic(high PH) to an Anaerobic(low PH) state, and it's implications for pathogen activity and dormancy). And this is why so many still suffer from symptoms of degenerating cell conditions tho man has found and used many antibiotic agents, natural and contrived. If our cellular/organ functioning isnt rehabilitated, no oxidising agent or therapy will suffice to end our woes. (Many people using oxidisers dont consider when using the blood stream, that our blood is only about 20% of our fluid by volume, so that while we may affect it's health by using powerfull IV H2O2 or O3, we often still suffer from the ailment due to it's being more wholisticly located in our system).
There can be a number of reason why your systems are acting as they are. Why you developed the symptoms you describe, and didn't achieve what you wanted/expected by fasting. (And fasting without tecniques like using alkalinisers like fruit, grass and or vegetable juices or other free radical scavengers(ie vit C) as mentioned is usually counterproductive because healthy productive fasting is not about depriving as much as it is about correcting, cleansing, accentuating and assisting the regaining of systems health (I have little(no) respect for Shelton as quasi health promoter or person and especially the misinformation on what is or isn't "real" fasting).
You can still figure it out and correct the concern w some investigation, diagnosis and effort at assisting your system (before cutting).
Tennants book "Cancer's On and Off Switches" (and it is about basic subpar health states not just cancer) is an informative and cutting edge human systems biology text.
Study Tennant's work: https://vimeo.com/search?q=healing+is+voltage
If you are not taking Iodine, the cells and organs fluid expression ability(elimination ect) will be as limited.
I think of autolysis as a response to our system fireing up and getting into proper balance and function rather than our system eating the unwanted.
Research has shown that our cells abilities are predicated on the oxygen they can utilize, the raw materials available, and the degree they may be comprimized by toxins(pathogen action and waste, heavy metals). And the oxygen availability is determined by the Voltage they are running at. With a low Voltage a cell becomes slowly deprived of oxygen which causes low energy creation. If the cell V is too low to keep energy requirments up, the created anerobic conditions outcomes start a decline into early untimely cell death.
Normal Voltage(-25mv) is equalibrium, high voltage (-50mv) (inflamation) is a sign our cells are rebuilding, low voltage(masses, grey slow healing or unable to heal tissue) (-10mv) is a sign of our cells inability to keep up with it's requirments.
(this is why 'Archus' mentions earthing, because in physically connecting with the earth we are connecting with a large electron field, and if we connect a large surface area, like our bare back(or to be buried as in ancient practices)(tho our bare feet are excellent and part of the natural design), we are also allowing that electrical earth field to be in an overall interface and complete any of our circuitry routes which are presently down or blocked (emotional blocks, dental infection blocks, scar tissue blocks, of our fascia circuitry). This is how Polarity Screens achieve their value also, by bypassing our normal circuitry routes, so as to feed current to subpar/blocked units).
(Intersting fact that tho the human body cell Voltage seems low, if we compute the cell membrane(the battery of the cell) voltage by using it's size between the inner and outter walls of the membrane, the voltage increases to a very high almost unbelievable potential of 100,000 V per meter). (human spontaneous conbustion, tummo, ect ect)
One of Gerson's main contributions was in his understanding of how to unprecedentedly, influence his patients systems to use the very high doses of Vit A he was giving them by using multiple daily Coffee Enemas. His treatments and Hoxeys and Essiac are among the most successful treatments to have been used against cancer. Hoxey's blood cleaning herbal mixture(w similar to Essiac ingredients) cured tens of thousands over years going back to his father who started using the mixture on horses w such success that it naturally bloomed into a regular treatment for cancers in humans. Hoxey had many MDs investigating and supporting his cancer treatments till his clinic was shut down in 1960?.
Maybe the easiest thing you could do is up your nutrition with(complete foods) daily multiple oz of chlorophyll juice or raw milk(w digestive assistance) and take CoQ10 500mgs a day to reaquire some cellular energy that is obviously missing. I would take Z Bush's product "RESTORE" http://restore4life.com/publications-articles/
And did I mention IODINE !!! http://www.tennantinstitute.us/thyroid-support
I see from your previous posts that------------------ youve been working at it.
Steve Jobs is a good example of an illness treatment not considering (and w a Vegan choice of diet plan actually opposing) our bodies serious fat requirments of 20%, filling our voltage/oxygen energy creating relationship needs. (Since our cell's energy storage inside of our cells membrane consists of lipids(fats), to meet our cells energy requirments we need to include adequate fat in our diet for the running of overall cell function and health)
The idea that Vitamin C could assist the metabolism of a cancerous situation as opposed to assist in ending it, is relying on inferior or an incomplete study on the matter. (I think KMG is innocently passing on valuable, but incomplete info, encountered in her investigation of this disease. Which is only germane as a caveat if anyone is trying to eradicate a cancer by relying soley on a Vit C protocol, while neglecting to reverse metabolic causes of the tumor also).
Vit C (the third discovered (thus labeled 'C' after 'B'), essential (meaning humans cannot live without it) nutrient), is a molecule combining, among other attributes, two different actions(thus a super health molecule). It can reduce electrons in a gram negative, (pathogenic) (negatively charged membrane), organism encountered, thus killing it, and it can also donate electrons, thus changing a deconstructing 'free radical' (cation) atom into a balanced unharming state. Thus it is a good example of a true Redox molecule, one that reduces and oxidises.(Ionic Silver, O3 and H2O2 can only oxidise for example, and thus create, w each killing, deconstructing structures, aka 'free radicals', waste, rot. The process(aka reducing) of changing these harmful structures to harmless is aka alkalinizing, and its byproduct is in raising the environments PH (the hydrogen potential), increasing the potential for healthy cellular functioning). (BTW One of Z Bush's RESTORE molecule discovery specialnesses, is that while most all Redox molecules can only transfer or gain electrons once for either or each, the carbon Redox molecule structure that he found in millinial old deposits, orginally created by bacteria, has the ability to affect transfer multiple times over. Combine that with its ability to provoke Intestinal and healthy body flora repopulation and this product stands out, worthy of investigating.)
A media source decrying the use of Vit C, even if based on research, by reporting that Vit C had increased a tumor size, would be misconstruing facts as we know them and missing the reasoning behind that result. Not considering the understanding of, as we now do (as incomplete as that may be presently), the mechanism of 'normal' and 'sub normal' cell health and divisioning, thus attributing the actions of high dose Vit C to a cancers growth as a final statement on Vit C use in cancer care, would be incomplete and missleading.
Since Vit C's functioning is as a required and normal part of our bodies processing, (internally synthesized in mega doses when ill or injured in all creatures but a few), to associate the addition of Vit 'C' in the mentioned way is similar to the findings of those who induce EM Field's and Frequencies to pathogenic organisms, intending dissolution but instead often findind the reverse.
The quandary to this(natural vit C or natural EMF's as promoter of tumor or pathogen health) is resolved by the more complete understanding and implications of how our cells function. And the more complete, than commonly known, information on how and why a cancerous cell mass is created, how it exists and how it's life cycle ends.(Non cancerous masses are far different in creation and metabolism).
Linking as example 'Vit C' and the EMFields for this explanation is based on each ones ability to donate energy and thus empower a cell system running on 'electricity'.
And tho a cancer tumor's cell's metabolic functioning is different then a 'regular' cell's, it is still running on electricity, and thus it is this which is being addressed and assisted, rather than eithers different metabolic style or life cycle effects on the overall biological system.
And thus the result of the added energy, to either a pathogenic micro organism, in the case of the E Field, or to the cell of a cancerous tumor, in the case of the added Vit C, can be interpreted and considered important, as mentioned by KMJ. Tho the implications of that interpretation would be incomplete and erroneous as to value, in either usage as protocol, unless cell metabolism(cancerous or non) is included in the analysis, hypothesis and determined medical protocol on the subject.
BTW This is in reference to cancer tumors not growths, since certain mass growths(cysts, boils ect) occur for different reasons than a cancerous tumor would (not withstanding that these growths may become cancerous, that would still be by more involved reasons than their original creation).